Buy or Sell: UGA will catch Bama in the coming years

[Political Hack]

I'm buying. I think the sleeping juggernaut in Georgia has woken up. They're about to dominate in state recruiting and stop bleeding so many kids to Florida, Bama, FSU, Tenn, Clemson, Auburn, etc... They lost all their best in-state products year after year after year. That's changing under Smart. If they consolidate talent in the state of Georgia, theyll catch and pass Bama.

[Liverpooldawg]

Cautious buy, once Saben retires. UGA still only has one NCAA title and not many if any SEC titles in the division era. That NCAA title rested on the shoulders of the best college football player I have ever seen in my 53 years. They had him for two more years after that. There is talent to burn in the state of Georgia, if they manage to get it all, something they have never done, they will own the SEC. I don’t think they can do it.

[msstate7]

Sell. Georgia is trying to be bama... no one is more bama than bama. The style that beats bama is a qb and WRs all over the field.

[Goldendawg]

Sell. Bama gets who they want nation-wide. Will not matter if Ga locks down their state.

[Liverpooldawg]

Sell. Bama gets who they want nation-wide. Will not matter if Ga locks down their state.

If the actually do “lock down” Georgia they will beat Bama in recruiting on the field. They won’t manage to “lock down”
Georgia so it’s a moot point.

[TUSK]

I’ll take “C”.

Define “coming years”, please.

[Political Hack]

I’ll take “C”.

Define “coming years”, please.

Next 3-4. Possibly this year in the SECCG.

[Token Bammer]

Next 3-4. Possibly this year in the SECCG.

Alabama will mudhole stomp UGA this season. UGA has improved some among an incredibly weak SEC, and a decimated SEC East, but they are far from catching or passing Saban. UGA has always recruited well. In that regard, Kirby isn't bringing anything new to UGA. Dude, just has to win. Ray Goff had amazing talent at UGA, and we know what Richt was able to do on the recruiting trail.

The only hope UGA has of catching or passing Saban is for him to retire or kick the bucket. Saban has gone up against some great programs and hall of fame coaches and dominated. Now Smart is going to do him in? Nope. Not going down like that. Jmo.

[TUSK]

Alabama will mudhole stomp UGA this season. UGA has improved some among an incredibly weak SEC, and a decimated SEC East, but they are far from catching or passing Saban. UGA has always recruited well. In that regard, Kirby isn't bringing anything new to UGA. Dude, just has to win. Ray Goff had amazing talent at UGA, and we know what Richt was able to do on the recruiting trail.

The only hope UGA has of catching or passing Saban is for him to retire or kick the bucket. Saban has gone up against some great programs and hall of fame coaches and dominated. Now Smart is going to do him in? Nope. Not going down like that. Jmo.

Don't try to "out Bammer" Bammer....

Here's a list of AP Top 20 teams that Bammer would smoosh.... like a bored A-10 Warthog pilot with a 3 bump on the trigger in the middle of the desert....

2 PSU
3 UGA
4 TCU
5 Wisconsin
12 Washington
13 Notre Dame
14 VA Tech
16 USF
16 NC State
18 Michigan State
19 Michigan
20 UCF

[Token Bammer]

Don't try to "out Bammer" Bammer....

Here's a list of AP Top 20 teams that Bammer would smoosh.... like a bored A-10 Warthog pilot with a 3 bump on the trigger in the middle of the desert....

2 PSU
3 UGA
4 TCU
5 Wisconsin
12 Washington
13 Notre Dame
14 VA Tech
16 USF
16 NC State
18 Michigan State
19 Michigan
20 UCF

TUSK, I'm going to have to out Bammer you. I am of the belief there are only three teams in the top 20 that could give BAMA a run. However, even in saying that, two may be fraudulent.

1) Clemson (when healthy)

2) OSU - they are talent rich but I think Barrett and the Urban Meyer offense is a fraud. We'll see very soon.

3) OU- because of Mayfield. A good quarterback on a great day can beat man coverage. It has rarely happened, but when it does this is how Alabama has lost under Saban. Beat our press man and make plays with your feet/arm outside the pocket when the play breaks down. Mayfield is capable of this, but doing it is another thing. He is no Deshaun Watson. Jmo

[bulldawg28]

Alabama will mudhole stomp UGA this season. UGA has improved some among an incredibly weak SEC, and a decimated SEC East, but they are far from catching or passing Saban. UGA has always recruited well. In that regard, Kirby isn't bringing anything new to UGA. Dude, just has to win. Ray Goff had amazing talent at UGA, and we know what Richt was able to do on the recruiting trail.

The only hope UGA has of catching or passing Saban is for him to retire or kick the bucket. Saban has gone up against some great programs and hall of fame coaches and dominated. Now Smart is going to do him in? Nope. Not going down like that. Jmo.

No mudhole stomping is happening. You don't have the passing offense to beat or threaten them downfield. Bama may win but it will be barely.

[Political Hack]

No mudhole stomping is happening. You don't have the passing offense to beat or threaten them downfield. Bama may win but it will be barely.

We're seeing the same thing here. UGA is extremely talented and disciplined on defense. Bama won't pass in them. Jalen's legs may be enough to save them, but it will be a close game in my opinion. UGA's defense is legit. They show you what they want you to see and then close on it. If it's 3rd and 6, they'll show you 4 and make the tackle. They are incredibly impressive on D and have the best RB tandem in college football. That's a winning combo.

[TUSK]

Next 3-4. Possibly this year in the SECCG.

SELL

in fact, buy that shit (BMR) at $847/share and sell it in 30 months at $7,000/share and feel good about doing the buyer a "solid"....

the cat you sell it to will make bank, as well.

[Token Bammer]

Sell. Georgia is one of the two most underachieving football programs in college football history. They have good seasons, good teams, good talent, and even good coaches, but they never materialize into championships.

Also, Kirby is doing a good job, but the East is severely depleted of talent and coaching. That won't always be the case. UF and UT will rise again, and the West has a few programs that will ultimately have a say in whether or not UGA can win a championship that are pretty good as well. In short, Kirby is a good recruiter (always has been), but he's going to have to prove he can get it done in crunch time AND sustain over a long period of time. It's one thing to build a winner, it's another thing be a winner consistently.

I figured the OP didn't mean Kirby would turn UGA into a dynasty? Smart isn't passing Saban. Saban recruits where he wants in states with greater programs and coaches looming over them than Georgia/Smart. You're right, the state of Georgia is loaded with talent, but BAMA, AU, UT, UF, FSU, etc have always pulled talent from there and always will. Too much talent there for UGA to hog it all, and there are way too many recruiting relationships and too many inroads have been established for way too long for them to just go away because an unproven head coach said so.

UGA and Smart have a LOT of work to do.

[BB30]

Sell. Georgia is one of the two most underachieving football programs in college football history. They have good seasons, good teams, good talent, and even good coaches, but they never materialize into championships.

Also, Kirby is doing a good job, but the East is severely depleted of talent and coaching. That won't always be the case. UF and UT will rise again, and the West has a few programs that will ultimately have a say in whether or not UGA can win a championship that are pretty good as well. In short, Kirby is a good recruiter (always has been), but he's going to have to prove he can get it done in crunch time AND sustain over a long period of time. It's one thing to build a winner, it's another thing be a winner consistently.

I figured the OP didn't mean Kirby would turn UGA into a dynasty? Smart isn't passing Saban. Saban recruits where he wants in states with greater programs and coaches looming over them than Georgia/Smart. You're right, the state of Georgia is loaded with talent, but BAMA, AU, UT, UF, FSU, etc have always pulled talent from there and always will. Too much talent there for UGA to hog it all, and there are way too many recruiting relationships and too many inroads have been established for way too long for them to just go away because an unproven head coach said so.

UGA and Smart have a LOT of work to do.

I disagree with the thought that Tennessee will be back to a championship caliber team anytime in the near future. UF hasn't really shown much since Meyer left and historically outside of Spurrier and Meyer they have been decent but not great. It still takes an elite coach to win big at either of those schools. The landscape IMO has changed too much for Tennessee to get back to the 90s. They really haven't been all that relevant since 2007 and even that year they weren't great.

UGA should dominate the East for the next 3-4 years. We will just have to see if they can do it. Smart is definitely doing a good job but I don't know if we have a good enough sample size yet to make that determination.

Georgia theoretically should be dominant in the big 3 and yet they really haven't been. I do think they can compete with Bama, I just don't see them taking over the SEC as the premier team as long as Saban is around.

[Token Bammer]

There is a lot of overselling UGA and a lot of underselling the SECPOTY and BAMA in this thread.

Some QB rating stats.

http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr

Jalen and the WRs are just starting to hit their stride. I'm not saying Jalen is Tom Brady, but he is incredibly efficient, never turns the ball over, and just makes plays. If someone says that Jalen isn't vastly improved over last season as a passer, then they aren't paying attention.

Plus, UGA is a one dimensional (running) football team, and BAMA crushes one dimensional football teams, especially those with a freshman playing quarterback. The ONLY teams to defeat BAMA have had exceptional QB play. UGA isn't getting that from a freshman against our defense.

If BAMA played UGA today they would be favored 11.5 ish.

Georgia has improved some on D, but if they played BAMA today, BAMA would be the best offense they have played by far. Remember, BAMA's offense, including Jalen, has put up the offensive statistics they have while often calling off the dogs at half time. UGA would be run off the field against Alabama right at this moment.

[Political Hack]

There is a lot of overselling UGA and a lot of underselling the SECPOTY and BAMA in this thread.

Some QB rating stats.

http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr

Jalen and the WRs are just starting to hit their stride. I'm not saying Jalen is Tom Brady, but he is incredibly efficient, never turns the ball over, and just makes plays. If someone says that Jalen isn't vastly improved over last season as a passer, then they aren't paying attention.

Plus, UGA is a one dimensional (running) football team, and BAMA crushes one dimensional football teams, especially those with a freshman playing quarterback. The ONLY teams to defeat BAMA have had exceptional QB play. UGA isn't getting that from a freshman against our defense.

If BAMA played UGA today they would be favored 11.5 ish.

Georgia has improved some on D, but if they played BAMA today, BAMA would be the best offense they have played by far. Remember, BAMA's offense, including Jalen, has put up the offensive statistics they have while often calling off the dogs at half time. UGA would be run off the field against Alabama right at this moment.

He hasn't faced a defense that could stop a powder puff football team yet. Florida state is the closest thing and we see what they've done since. Bama is efficient on offense. They're efficient everywhere because Saban demands it, but they haven't been challenged by even a decent defense. Ole Miss? Vandy? Fresno? A&M? Ark? If he didn't have GREAT numbers with bama's OL and talent around him against those teams, it would be time to start looking for a new QB.

[mparkerfd20]

Biggest sell in the universe. Ain't happening.

[parabrave]

Sell. Georgia is one of the two most underachieving football programs in college football history. They have good seasons, good teams, good talent, and even good coaches, but they never materialize into championships.

Also, Kirby is doing a good job, but the East is severely depleted of talent and coaching. That won't always be the case. UF and UT will rise again, and the West has a few programs that will ultimately have a say in whether or not UGA can win a championship that are pretty good as well. In short, Kirby is a good recruiter (always has been), but he's going to have to prove he can get it done in crunch time AND sustain over a long period of time. It's one thing to build a winner, it's another thing be a winner consistently.

I figured the OP didn't mean Kirby would turn UGA into a dynasty? Smart isn't passing Saban. Saban recruits where he wants in states with greater programs and coaches looming over them than Georgia/Smart. You're right, the state of Georgia is loaded with talent, but BAMA, AU, UT, UF, FSU, etc have always pulled talent from there and always will. Too much talent there for UGA to hog it all, and there are way too many recruiting relationships and too many inroads have been established for way too long for them to just go away because an unproven head coach said so.

UGA and Smart have a LOT of work to do.

Mark Ritch is gone. He brought his choking to Miami. Now the state of Fla has the 2 biggest chokers in CFB.

[yjnkdawg]

I?ll take ?C?.

Define ?coming years?, please.

LOL My sentiments exactly, TUSK