Is the state of Mississippi THAT far behind Alabama in terms of overall talent?

[Indndawg]

I know its partly about population but I'm talking about athletic talent, coach-ability, and coaching of said athletes.

Mississippi needs to consolidate many smaller districts so the players could player better competition. Many places in North Ms fight consolidation tooth and nail bc of losing a community school and bc of basketball (no football)

[bulldawg28]

It's the coaching

[Bully13]

is there a big pay gap between AL and MS coaches?

[mstatefan91]

Population, tradition, education, money, and visibility (though this one is better because of the internet) are all factors that lead to Alabama having better success in football, at least at the collegiate level.

[Dallas_Dawg]

If you don't keep up with recruiting, you wouldn't know that Bama gets not only the best from Alabama, but the best from Florida, Texas, California, etc. Saban has taken the freight train known as Alabama, and added a jet engine and rocket boosters to it.
That's why the Colin Cowherd's of the world are saying that Bama's dominance is bad for college football, and I tend to agree. They are nearly unbeatable. Only a team like a Clemson or Ohio State has a SHOT.

[Indndawg]

Prolly anywhere from 10-15K difference

[Hasu Dackds]

This is easy to look up. Alabama has 62 3* and above players for 2018. Mississippi has 38. Last year Alabama wins 71-48. 2016 Alabama 77-47. That's where it starts.

[Hasu Dackds]

If you don't keep up with recruiting, you wouldn't know that Bama gets not only the best from Alabama, but the best from Florida, Texas, California, etc. Saban has taken the freight train known as Alabama, and added a jet engine and rocket boosters to it.
That's why the Colin Cowherd's of the world are saying that Bama's dominance is bad for college football, and I tend to agree. They are nearly unbeatable. Only a team like a Clemson or Ohio State has a SHOT.

It didn't start that way: https://247sports.com/college/alabam...otball/Commits

Those first couple of national championships were built on Alabama players. I actually thought the house would crumble when they got away from that and started recruiting essentially all 5 star kids around the country, but Saban can keep things together like none other.

[Ari Gold]

Coaching is a HUGE factor...

[Reason2succeed]

Per capital talent is good but the population is much smaller. Also the resources are very different. Large cities are the likely homes of well funded programs and Mississippi doesn't have any large cities.

[TUSK]

Bama gets a lot less intrastate talent today than in years' past... We've been hammering LA and GA, especially....

But to answer your question: Yes... It may be proportional to population, though... I've not run the numbers.

[IMissJack]

Someone connected with MS HS football would have to answer this, but I would imagine that with so many small schools, that the coaching, weight training, off season workouts, etc. would not be up to par with larger schools. This may play a part. I think this is a reason that we have picked up some guys that look totally different after having nutrition guides and weight training instruction for just a little while. I know my 9th grade son went to some kind of strength and conditioning almost all summer here in TX.

[Homedawg]

Coaching is a HUGE factor...

In certain places, I agree. But ms has some good coaches, just not near as many of them, for sure. But bama has more talent too. Just a fact.

[Offshore Dawg]

Saban doesn't just get 5* players. He gets some of the top rated 5* at that position.

[Offshore Dawg]

Mississippi also has a problem with way too many "School Superintendents" running their own personal empires and being paid way too much money for what they do.

[Indndawg]

you're right

[ScoobaDawg]

Bama gets a lot less intrastate talent today than in years' past... We've been hammering LA and GA, especially....

But to answer your question: Yes... It may be proportional to population, though... I've not run the numbers.

Exactly bama goes to where the talent is. I mean they got a QB from Hawaii last year....
We are limited to where we will go and can pull.

[Mimi's Babies]

is there a big pay gap between AL and MS coaches?

Starkville High Schools last 3 coaches..... Salaries

Mitchell $83,000.00

Ricky Woods took ONLY $50,000.00 -- wonder what else he received from a certain college. SHOULD anyone know what Woods salary is at South Panola PLEASE POST.... It is not current on the SP Website.. (Pogue was paid over $80,000.00)

Jones $78,000.00

Please note: This is ALL public information.... None of these coaches Teach any class.

No idea what the AD makes... but hearing rumors now that he is retiring Dec. 31, 2017.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Mississippi also has a problem with way too many "School Superintendents" running their own personal empires and being paid way too much money for what they do.

Yes. In many of these rural areas, they think the school exists to employ adults. When in reality it is supposed to exist to educate children. That is why they fight consolidation and/or state takeover.

[RocketDawg]

Starkville High Schools last 3 coaches..... Salaries

Mitchell $83,000.00

Ricky Woods took ONLY $50,000.00 -- wonder what else he received from a certain college. SHOULD anyone know what Woods salary is at South Panola PLEASE POST.... It is not current on the SP Website.. (Pogue was paid over $80,000.00)

Jones $78,000.00

Please note: This is ALL public information.... None of these coaches Teach any class.

No idea what the AD makes... but hearing rumors now that he is retiring Dec. 31, 2017.

Back in my day coaches had to teach something (that was in Meridian). Granted, it was probably History or something equally benign, but they had to teach. And of course, they might teach PE (that was required for everybody back then; not sure about now). I even had one basketball coach in junior high that taught science and he was pretty good too. He was a rarity though.

I have no idea what Alabama high school coaches are paid. Probably too much relative to a classroom teacher.