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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies View Post
    So the date would not be after the Close of the January 29, 2016, NOA?
    No. They time starts when a sport (any sport at a school) is officially on probation when the COI gives their final report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    So when does Mars give a check to Elite Dawgs? I believe we have been discussing the burner phones rumors on here for a while. You're welcome Houston Nutt.
    Elitedawgs rumor that the NCAA is in town? Yep.

    Elitedawgs rumor that Freeze has some infidelity questions surrounding him? Yep.

    Elitedawgs rumors of burner phones? Yep.

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    I've wondered all along if the NCAA was holding some things back just to bring them out a year or so later to cause them to have repeat offender status. Those sneaky devils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bigdawg View Post
    One, I don't think there is an NCAA rule that a school has to be a repeat violator. Two, cheating while the investigation is going on might qualify in the eyes of the COI.
    Per NCAA:

    "What is the ?death penalty??
    The repeat-violator legislation (?death penalty?) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

    Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and

    The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport."

    They do have legislation and procedures on the death penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by DovaDawg View Post
    Someone in my office brought up an interesting suggestion. With the headache it would cause to death penalty UM, what if they removed all scholarships for say three years? If you qualified for academic scholarship, you would be allowed to utilize it as not to punish those who were due, but all other athletes would be non-scholarship. It would eliminate the need to reschedule games, etc. Bowl ban, win forfeiture, no tv revenues, and removal of schlorships would be effective without imposing hardship on other schools for scheduling.
    They would just get 4 stars an academic schollie similar to Vaught having guys with rowing scholarships. They would just cheat around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    It's when the violations occur not the number of NOA. Repeat offender would be triggered for violations after Oct 2016, when basketball and track went on probation.
    So, does their payment to SA39 qualify as repeat offender? I don't know the exact timeline, but didn't that occur after Oct 2016?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Per NCAA:

    "What is the ?death penalty??
    The repeat-violator legislation (?death penalty?) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

    Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and

    The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport."

    They do have legislation and procedures on the death penalty
    Wasn't there rumors of another violation that happened with the last recruiting class?

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    Is anything ever going to come to light about "coots for croots"? I thought surely

    by now something would have surfaced, but nothing yet.............
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    Elitedawgs rumor that the NCAA is in town? Yep.

    Elitedawgs rumor that Freeze has some infidelity questions surrounding him? Yep.

    Elitedawgs rumors of burner phones? Yep.
    Left one off Sir, Prostitutes for Freeze and recruits.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDawg View Post
    So, does their payment to SA39 qualify as repeat offender? I don't know the exact timeline, but didn't that occur after Oct 2016?
    No. Leo signed long before that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Wasn't there rumors of another violation that happened with the last recruiting class?
    The 2017 class? A couple of rumors but honestly one of the players had been tied up a long time. Luke supposedly committed possible Level 2 or 3 for the flip of that New Hope player. But that one may depend on how bad that they would classify that violation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 2017 class? A couple of rumors but honestly one of the players had been tied up a long time. Luke supposedly committed possible Level 2 or 3 for the flip of that New Hope player. But that one may depend on how bad that they would classify that violation.
    Maybe it was the 2016 class while the NCAA was on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Maybe it was the 2016 class while the NCAA was on campus.
    I suspect that 2016 class will have an opportunity to transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips View Post
    I've wondered all along if the NCAA was holding some things back just to bring them out a year or so later to cause them to have repeat offender status. Those sneaky colluding devils.
    Fify
    You're blind if you can't see improvement.....Freshmens......Strain.....Kick rocks and pound sand......Drag my Yankee ass outta here!......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 2017 class? A couple of rumors but honestly one of the players had been tied up a long time. Luke supposedly committed possible Level 2 or 3 for the flip of that New Hope player. But that one may depend on how bad that they would classify that violation.
    You are correct about Lukie at New Hope... OM Booster and a teacher at New Hope.... They pulled crap at SHS and WP also... WP crap was stopped... Might want to talk to a guy from WP that is an OM Booster about what he has been up too.... Others on here know who these people are.... Lukie is dirty with very dirty hands.....

    Back up a year and you will find lukie's hands in the candy jar again.....
    Last edited by Mimi's Babies; 09-20-2017 at 01:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34 View Post
    NCAA: We'll never hand out another death penalty.

    TSUN: Hold my beer.
    +1. I tried!

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to starkvegasdawg34 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies View Post
    You are correct about Lukie at New Hope... OM Booster and a teacher at New Hope.... They pulled crap at SHS and WP also... WP crap was stopped... Might want to talk to a guy from WP that is an OM Booster about what he has been up too.... Others on here know who these people are.... Lukie is dirty with very dirty hands.....
    You talking about the distributor of round little pebbles by a internal combustion engine attached to a 8 wheeled vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips View Post
    I've wondered all along if the NCAA was holding some things back just to bring them out a year or so later to cause them to have repeat offender status. That sneaky DAN MULLEN.
    FIFY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Maybe it was the 2016 class while the NCAA was on campus.
    BOTH CLASSES... 2016 and 2017... 2016 signing day was after the cut off date of the NOA.... A certain recruit received his car in March 2016....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shannondawg View Post
    You talking about the distributor of round little pebbles by a internal combustion engine attached to a 8 wheeled vehicle?
    BINGO..... Shannondawg.... and that flat black stuff poured on the ground.... lets not leave out the one who likes to call in sick -- and end up on the same golf course as the boss... haha can you say fired....

    +1 I tried.... You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to shannondawg again.

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