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Mullen has to stay for 2018....
We lose Rankin, Gray, Myles, Cleveland, Harris, Durr and Thomas. We gain Guidry, Rivers and Cole plus a whole recruiting class, featuring Heath who could play immediately.
Whatever jobs he could get this year, will be better next year.
Texas A&M and/or Tennessee would have to pay 6-7 million to get him. I don't think he fits at either.
I will say this - we should all be Notre Dame fans from here on out. If we beat Georgia in Athens, who beat them in South Bend, they may be motivated to pay the money. If Notre Dame antes up and pays 6-7 million, I will shake coach's hand and wish him well. Promote Gonzales and we'll still be awesome in 2018.
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Not sure Billy G is a head coach.
After Mullen leaves we'll have a desirable job.
Dez Harris could potentially come back.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Not sure Billy G is a head coach.
After Mullen leaves we'll have a desirable job.
Dez Harris could potentially come back.
Agree on Billy G. Whenever someone has been a coordinator as long as he has, it's rare you see them make the jump to HC. Look at what happened to Ellis Johnson. It's the reason Chavis and Grantham aren't head coaches.
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If things are going very well I've never had a problem with hiring from within. It works for some and not for others. I guess that is for the Intense Bastard to decide.
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I hope Mullen is smart enough not to go to Notre Dame if given the opportunity. Without making fundamental changes to their identity (they won't), no coach is going to get them back to the level of consistent success they once had, yet they'll still hold onto those expectations for decades. I'm not saying we shouldn't accept that Mullen might find other opportunities attractive, but all the Notre Dame job is good for at this point is setting a coach's career back a decade.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
I hope Mullen is smart enough not to go to Notre Dame if given the opportunity. Without making fundamental changes to their identity (they won't), no coach is going to get them back to the level of consistent success they once had, yet they'll still hold onto those expectations for decades. I'm not saying we shouldn't accept that Mullen might find other opportunities attractive, but all the Notre Dame job is good for at this point is setting a coach's career back a decade.
I would say there is a large enough sample size to where anyone with half a brain realizes that matching up any big resource school with any big name coach is no guarantee of anything(except maybe a nice contract and huge buy out). I don't expect Mullen to retire at MSU, but I would think he'd be pretty mindful of what job he would take next.
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Why does he have to leave? That sounds like ole miss crap to me. And why even bring it up?
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Originally Posted by
shannondawg
Why does he have to leave? That sounds like ole miss crap to me. And why even bring it up?
I agree, why in the world are folks even talking about him leaving, he just signed an extension.
Funny how some where saying we can do better.
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Originally Posted by
basedog
I agree, why in the world are folks even talking about him leaving,.
Because we like talking sports and Msu football. It's ok.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Because we like talking sports and Msu football. It's ok.
Well you will probably get your rocks off on this .. https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...plan-his-exit/
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Originally Posted by
shannondawg
Dennis Dodd is a dick. He had LSU beating us easily. Yeah, **** you Dennis! This is his mea culpa to the college football world.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Because we like talking sports and Msu football. It's ok.
You are playing their game. This is exactly what they want us to be doing.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Because we like talking sports and Msu football. It's ok.
So we are 3-0, heading into a marquee matchup, and the only thing sports related you want to discuss is what school Mullen will leave us for?
Seems legit. Carry on I guess!!***
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Originally Posted by
shannondawg
Why does he have to leave? That sounds like ole miss crap to me. And why even bring it up?
Probably is.....
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Notre dame will not pay that kind of money. Mullen will stay to reap the fruit of his 9 years invested. He'd be dumb to leave the cupboard that full for someone else. Not to mention we gonna give him a nice raise if the season continues the way it is going.
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Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?
Because we have a lot of fans with an engrained losers mentality. It's the same group who said we barely had a chance to beat LSU. It's the same group who complains about playing La Tech on the road or USM. This same shit, loser mentality is why we are so far behind in the arms race and were shit on by the conference for so many decades. Until the loser mentality is gone you'll continue to see this and sadly I don't think any of our older fans will ever shake this mentality. They are scared to start thinking and acting like a winner. The fear or losing trumps the joy of winning.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Because we have a lot of fans with an engrained losers mentality. It's the same group who said we barely had a chance to beat LSU. It's the same group who complains about playing La Tech on the road or USM. This same shit, loser mentality is why we are so far behind in the arms race and were shit on by the conference for so many decades. Until the loser mentality is gone you'll continue to see this and sadly I don't think any of our older fans will ever shake this mentality. They are scared to start thinking and acting like a winner. The fear or losing trumps the joy of winning.
Agree with what you are getting at to an extent but you have been on a roll lately... A few fans on a message board aren't going to impact a whole hell of a lot in the big scheme of things. Jumping on fellow Dawgs is pretty dumb. There is a way to get your point across with a little more tact.
Pretty sure those fans still showed up to the game and still cheered their a** off and as long as they do that they are ok in my book. So what if some are eternal pessimists every fanbase has them it isn't only confined to MSU fans.
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These threads do nothing for our team. Mullen is here because he wants to be. Just like everyone everywhere. You work the job because you either have to (some people) or want to (Mullen). Mullen could have left years ago, but didn't. He is close to getting the program to the next level. 4 years of what we did in 2014 and we will no longer be seen as the lower tier SEC doormat. All it takes is our coaching staff to stabolize, keep UM down, and win games and he will be the one responsible for building something.
Can you imagine, people still think Bear Bryant is better than Saban? That is what it would be like going to Notre Dame.
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Wherever Mullen ends up next, his life gets consiberably less comfortable. He is going to have to persuade Megan that it is worth it. She was pretty vocal about not liking Florida and the pressure from fans and media. He can get another raise from his buddy Cohen and continue to build. Hell, he has gotten it to the point where things should be a little easier. If the Baylors and the TCU's can do it, we can as well.
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