Why is the National Media So Concerned About Dan Mullen's Career?

[ShotgunDawg]

This is the damnedest thing I've ever seen. I understand that there will be objections for me posting this, but we've reached the point of absurd with how concerned the media appears to be with where Dan Mullen is coaching. It's the point that it appears they are worried about something.

Two articles today:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...plan-his-exit/

http://gridironnow.com/dan-mullen-de...son-questions/

It's just an absurd conversation.

Why would Mullen leave now when 2017 & 2018 are his most talented teams at MSU?

Why would Mullen leave now when his main rival has destroyed themselves?

Why would Mullen leave now when the 2019 MS high school class is the most talented in the state's history & MSU may have a chance to control it?

Why would Mullen leave now to take over bad programs with unrealistic expectations when he is just now really starting to reap the fruit of his time in Starkville?

All we were told in 2014 is that Mullen had to leave MSU because he had hit his ceiling, yet now we are being told the same thing yet again?

So, if the 2017 & 2019 MSU teams are potentially better than MSU's 2014 team, then how has Mullen reached his ceiling?

Sure, MSU is a "small market" job, but so was Duke at one point in basketball. Davis Wade Stadium has turned into one of the great atmospheres in college football that is wonderful to recruit to.

At what point, does the media just admit that MSU is a really good football program & stop thinking it's a dump that Dan Mullen has to be rescued from?

Again, it just appears as though the media is worried about something. Their insistence & begging that he moves on just seems odd. It's an obsession that lacks logic

[Commercecomet24]

I could be dead wrong but Dan appears to me to be an "empire builder" type. He wants to leave his own mark and do something everyone said couldn't be done. At State he's "the man" and he knows it. He gets to run his program like he wants without much interference, he makes a dang good living, his family enjoys being here. He's got quite a good life, why leave and screw it up?

[IMissJack]

Because he goes against their entire narrative. No one can win at MSU, blah, blah, blah. That has changed to no one can win a championship at MSU. They will keep saying he needs to leave, until eventually he does, and they say they were right (even though they were wrong for 9 years and counting). I'll say this, Dan may leave while he is at this high, but there is no " elite" program that is going to give the same time table to win big that MSU has, while paying top 15 pay, with little pressure. Doesn't sound like that bad of a job. The biggest problem with most teams is they don't give the coach enough time to be successful.


Let's hope he is not from the same cloth as Stricklin, who left his own school for greener pasture.

[ShotgunDawg]

What gets me is that EVERY program had a great coach that got the ball rolling.

What was Bama before Bear?

Oklahoma before Wilkenson?

Ohio State before Woody?

FSU before Bowden?

Auburn before Shug?

LSU before Saban?

Tennessee before Neyland?

Michigan before Bo?

Etc.

All these programs were built when the NCAA controlled TV contracts. Was there some sort of clause in a contract that said all those programs forever had the right to win? Or is it possible that other programs could also have great coaches and build their tradition? Or did you have to build it in the 60s or your SOL?

[Commercecomet24]

What gets me is that EVERY program had a great coach that got the ball rolling.

What was Bama before Bear?

Oklahoma before Wilkenson?

Ohio State before Woody?

FSU before Bowden?

Auburn before Shug?

LSU before Saban?

Tennessee before Neyland?

Michigan before Bo?

Etc.

All these programs were built when the NCAA controlled TV contracts. Was there some sort of clause in a contract that said all those programs forever had the right to win? Or is it possible that other programs could also have great coaches and build their tradition? Or did you have to build it in the 60s or your SOL?

Right on! Rep given!

[TUSK]

What gets me is that EVERY program had a great coach that got the ball rolling.

What was Bama before Bear?

Really good.

Alabama's Frank Thomas & Wallace Wade were stellar...

But your point is well taken.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

What gets me is that EVERY program had a great coach that got the ball rolling.

What was Bama before Bear?

Oklahoma before Wilkenson?

Ohio State before Woody?

FSU before Bowden?

Auburn before Shug?

LSU before Saban?

Tennessee before Neyland?

Michigan before Bo?

Etc.

All these programs were built when the NCAA controlled TV contracts. Was there some sort of clause in a contract that said all those programs forever had the right to win? Or is it possible that other programs could also have great coaches and build their tradition? Or did you have to build it in the 60s or your SOL?

I get what you are saying and there's a lot of truth in the fact that the HC makes the program. But to be factual, Bama had already won 5 SEC championships before the Bear stepped on campus.

[Liverpooldawg]

Just get ready for it. It will be a constant drum beat. You know the source of this crap as well as I do. It originates the same place nearly all of the "Mullen to wherever" stuff starts. It will be worse this time because they know what's about to happen to them.

[ShotgunDawg]

This may be the only thing I ever agree with OM fans about, but it truly feels like blue blood programs believe they are the only ones that have the right to win. There is some extreme entitlement there.

[MrKotter]

Just get ready for it. It will be a constant drum beat. You know the source of this crap as well as I do. It originates the same place nearly all of the "Mullen to wherever" stuff starts. It will be worse this time because they know what's about to happen to them.

Sadly, it will be trumpeted by a few mods of this site too

[GreenheadDawg]

It's a good question. The media seems to make it a point to dog MSU, our facilities, and our program. Everytime we win a few games these articles immediately start popping up. Other than a few programs, we can pay with anybody.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I think Notre Dame would be our real worry...But they would have to come up with some big time $$$$ but if he was going to leave for a bigger job besides Notre Dame, it would have been in 2014..

[parabrave]

I think Notre Dame would be our real worry...But they would have to come up with some big time $$$$ but if he was going to leave for a bigger job besides Notre Dame, it would have been in 2014..

Why would he go to ND. He has no ties whatsoever to that school. No one since Holtz has done Sh#$ there and they are not going to pay him what he is making here. And here he only has to put up with 34 and some others.

[Commercecomet24]

Do y'all know how bad places like FSU, BYU, Va Tech, etc were before Bowden, Edwards and Beamer took over? They started those winning traditions at their respective schools and the country considers them "brands" now. Tradition has to start somewhere. JWS got us going and Dan taking us to another level!

Hail State

[IMissJack]

Do y'all know how bad places like FSU, BYU, Va Tech, etc were before Bowden, Edwards and Beamer took over? They started those winning traditions at their respective schools and the country considers them "brands" now. Tradition has to start somewhere. JWS got us going and Dan taking us to another level!

Hail State

Depends on Dan's goals, and what he wants to live with, but he is sitting in a good place to do the same. OM on probation, team starting to gel, recruiting improving, Saban will retire while Dan still has years of coaching ahead, etc.

[anubus]

Do y'all know how bad places like FSU, BYU, Va Tech, etc were before Bowden, Edwards and Beamer took over? They started those winning traditions at their respective schools and the country considers them "brands" now. Tradition has to start somewhere. JWS got us going and Dan taking us to another level!

Hail State

Well put even mighty Bama had to build a foundation but the idiot fan bases of those schools are too arrogant/stupid to realize that.You can win at Mississippi State just like at those schools

[Tbonewannabe]

Do y'all know how bad places like FSU, BYU, Va Tech, etc were before Bowden, Edwards and Beamer took over? They started those winning traditions at their respective schools and the country considers them "brands" now. Tradition has to start somewhere. JWS got us going and Dan taking us to another level!

Hail State

Another thing that those places have in common, stadiums named after them or at a minimum statue of the coach at the stadium. Does Dan want to put his name on MSU forever or just be one of the guys who won somewhere else? Does Dan want to reap the benefits of all the hard work of building a great foundation of a program? He has more control over his program than probably any coach not named Saban. The football facility was built to his specifications. I imagine we are about to build another endzone pretty soon with new locker rooms. Dan will have a lot to do with that. I think Megan likes actually living where she can go to the grocery store after a loss and not have people talk crap about her husband.

Our facilities for football are top 20 level pretty much in every way. Our stadium isn't the biggest but it is nice and getting better. There is only so much you can do without it just being wasteful.

[Commercecomet24]

Another thing that those places have in common, stadiums named after them or at a minimum statue of the coach at the stadium. Does Dan want to put his name on MSU forever or just be one of the guys who won somewhere else? Does Dan want to reap the benefits of all the hard work of building a great foundation of a program? He has more control over his program than probably any coach not named Saban. The football facility was built to his specifications. I imagine we are about to build another endzone pretty soon with new locker rooms. Dan will have a lot to do with that. I think Megan likes actually living where she can go to the grocery store after a loss and not have people talk crap about her husband.

Our facilities for football are top 20 level pretty much in every way. Our stadium isn't the biggest but it is nice and getting better. There is only so much you can do without it just being wasteful.

Right! I've felt that way about Dan since the beginning. That he wanted to build something that he could put his stamp and name on and not just be another coach in someone elses history. I honestly believe he wants to be the coach our program is known for. Maybe I'm crazy. Time will tell for sure, but he has definitely put HIS stamp on MSU football.

[RocketDawg]

Right! I've felt that way about Dan since the beginning. That he wanted to build something that he could put his stamp and name on and not just be another coach in someone elses history. I honestly believe he wants to be the coach our program is known for. Maybe I'm crazy. Time will tell for sure, but he has definitely put HIS stamp on MSU football.

Exactly.

[Dawg61]

The answer you're seeking is that people can't stand for other people to have enjoyment so they will seek out a way to thrown shade on our sunny day after destroying LSU. They know Mullen leaving is a soft spot for MSU people so that's why you're seeing it right after we looked so great on Saturday. Be prepared you're also going to see a bunch of people trying to take down Jeffery Simmons too. Don't fall for the trolls Shotgun. They got you already.