Woolly Thread - There Appears to Be Disconnect with MSU's Football Team

[Political Hack]

Fitz is a man eater. He's a more powerful and explosive version of Dak. Dak has that "it" factor that separates him, but Fitz is more athletically gifted than Dak. That's obvious to everyone, and he's got the same guy coaching him.

[Pollodawg]

Whatevs, gentleman. We will see soon enough.

[Pollodawg]

I feel like Rhett Buttler when he told all of the folks at the BBQ that the South couldn't win a war with words. I may be unpopular now, but just you wait until we finish 6-6.

[DownwardDawg]

I feel like Rhett Buttler when he told all of the folks at the BBQ that the South couldn't win a war with words. I may be unpopular now, but just you wait until we finish 6-6.

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.

[Pollodawg]

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.

I will be too, but I don't see us beating AU @ AU, UGA @ UGA, and TAMU in Kyle Station or Arky at Arky. We are not beating Bama.

We win all 4 ooc plus U.K. And OM

[ShotgunDawg]

I will be too, but I don't see us beating AU @ AU, UGA @ UGA, and TAMU in Kyle Station or Arky at Arky. We are not beating Bama.
We win all 4 ooc plus U.K. And OM

Would be horribly disappointing to not win at least 1 of these. Our B+ game likely gives us a greater than 60% chance to beat UGA, TAMU, & Arky. To not play a B+ in at least one those would be pathetic. I can't imagine that all three of those teams will play well against us

[HSVDawg]

Would be horribly disappointing to not win at least 1 of these. Our B+ game likely gives us a greater than 60% chance to beat UGA, TAMU, & Arky. To not play a B+ in at least one those would be pathetic. I can't imagine that all three of those teams will play well against us

Have you looked at our record on the road against those 3 teams? Historically speaking, the odds are overwhelming that we will definitely lose all 3.

We are something like 2-12 all time in the state of Arkansas.
We are the only team in the West who hasn't won at Kyle Field since they joined the SEC (except Arkansas who plays them in Dallas every year, and they have wins there from the old Big 8 days).
Haven't beaten UGA in Athens since like the 60's or 70's.

Our best chance is probably against A&M, but its still hard to say it would be even remotely unexpected for us to lose all 3.

[HSVDawg]

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.

Same here. Gut tells me 7-5 with us flipping BYU and UK to the W column, taking care of business against the other 3 nonconference teams, and flipping A&M to the L column. Loss to UGA. All other outcomes would be the same as last year.

I do think our one swing game upset opportunity is LSU. We'll need to play a lot better up front than we did last year though. And we'll definitely need Rivers to help slow down Guice.

[Commercecomet24]

Have you looked at our record on the road against those 3 teams? Historically speaking, the odds are overwhelming that we will definitely lose all 3.

We are something like 2-12 all time in the state of Arkansas.
We are the only team in the West who hasn't won at Kyle Field since they joined the SEC (except Arkansas who plays them in Dallas every year, and they have wins there from the old Big 8 days).
Haven't beaten UGA in Athens since like the 60's or 70's.

Our best chance is probably against A&M, but its still hard to say it would be even remotely unexpected for us to lose all 3.

Of course you can look at this way and say Dan is 2-0 in his last 2 trips to arky which is more recent history.

[TrapGame]

Of course you can look at this way and say Dan is 2-0 in his last 2 trips to arky which is more recent history.

Damn, you just stomped on that narrative.

[HSVDawg]

Of course you can look at this way and say Dan is 2-0 in his last 2 trips to arky which is more recent history.

In two games that were basically toss ups in which we had to get a miracle blocked field goal and a 25 yard run from our 3rd string "locker room cancer" QB in OT against a 3-win team. Point is that we never play well up there.

[Commercecomet24]

In two games that were basically toss ups in which we had to get a miracle blocked field goal and a 25 yard run from our 3rd string "locker room cancer" QB in OT against a 3-win team. Point is that we never play well up there.

A win is a win, period. The fact is we have played well enough the last 2 trips to win there, doesn't matter how it just matters that you win.

[HSVDawg]

A win is a win, period. The fact is we have played well enough the last 2 trips to win there, doesn't matter how it just matters that you win.

My original reply to Shotgun was more aligned to his comment about us winning with our "B+" game. We never play our "B+" game up there. 2 years ago we gave up 50 points. 4 years ago we scored 17 in regulation and were taken to OT by a team that went winless in SEC play. We can go up there and play a C- or D+ game like the last two times up there and still scrap out a win if Ark also does the same or worse. But we shouldn't EXPECT that.

[Pollodawg]

If Fitz can learn to take what the defense gives him and be more consistent with the underneath and short to intermediate passes, he will unstoppable. He has to learn that not every play has to be a SC highlight.

[Perpetual Underachiever]

This was the conversation on the B&B show this morning & I found it intriguing.

A few days ago Barrett Sallee was interviewing Booger McFarland about Nick Fitzgerald & Booger made the following statements.


- Fitz will be top 2 to 3 QB in SEC

- Fitz will rush for 1,000 yards (rushed for 1,375 last year)

- Fitz will have 3,500 passing yards (Passed for 2,423 yards last year. I think 3,500 is too much. Will probably be around 2,700 - 3,000)

- Fitz will have 40 to 50 TDs (Last year Fitz had 21 pass TDs & 16 rush TDs for total of 37 TD)

- MSU will be a 6-6 to 7-5 team

Now here is where things get exciting:

MSU lost 4 games in 2016 by 7 points or less. I realize the schedule is more difficult this season, but, unless MSU's defense is dramatically worse in 2017 than 2016 or we have massive amounts of injuries, it's virtually impossible for Fitz to put up numbers similar to what Booger said & only win 6 or 7 games. If Fitz puts up those type of numbers we are likely at least an 8 win team.

We saw a similar situation a few years ago when Dak was named 1st team all-SEC preseason QB but MSU was picked last. It didn't add up then & it doesn't add up now.

Thought this thread was worth a bump after Booger just picked us to go 5-7 on SECN. Let em' sleep on us. I'm getting more confident by the day. Great interview with Grantham on Bounds this morning, and I honestly believe our defense is set for one of the greatest 1 year improvements ever. Complete 180. Gonna be a fun year.