Rosebowl made a great point about OL

[maroonmania]

That's the thing- some people that motivates them. Others it doesn't. A coach has to know what works with each individual player and motivate them the best way that works for all. I remember Bill Parcells talking about that one time.

Mullen is a 7 to 9 win coach. He will never be any more than that because he won't do the things necessary to be elite. Biggest factor is he won't hold ALL of his coaches accountable. He holds the defensive coaches accountable but not the offensive coaches, chief among those being Hevesy. Getting Grantham was a GREAT move but that doesn't do squat for the fact that we don't have enough quality OL and WRs. Mullen also appears to care less if we have someone that can kick a FG.

[tireddawg]

And a 10 win coach...

[Todd4State]

Mullen is a 7 to 9 win coach. He will never be any more than that because he won't do the things necessary to be elite. Biggest factor is he won't hold ALL of his coaches accountable. He holds the defensive coaches accountable but not the offensive coaches, chief among those being Hevesy. Getting Grantham was a GREAT move but that doesn't do squat for the fact that we don't have enough quality OL and WRs. Mullen also appears to care less if we have someone that can kick a FG.

I don't know about that. With the WR's it appears as if we are getting better with that. Billy has a four star guy committed in Malik Heath and Reggie Todd was a four star player. I think Jamal Couch will be a very good WR by the time he is a junior if not sooner. That's why I haven't been on Billy's ass like Hevesy- as long as they actually show that they are correcting mistakes I'm fine with that. And then as far as field goals we hired a NFL kicking coach and have a freshman that was an Army AA punter and we have a commitment from a kicker that is an UA All American. The problem is those spots are major weak points until the younger more talented guys develop and are ready. So, it may look like it hasn't been addressed when it really has been for a couple of years.

Also a lot of people thought he wouldn't get rid of Sallach but he did move him to the front office before Sallach went nuts and left on his own. And you mentioned Grantham already.

So, I do think that Dan has grown as a coach. To me, we really have one major problem spot that hasn't been corrected and he's the subject of this thread. Cohen is probably going to have to be the one that manages it.

I think we were so scarred by Croom being stubborn that we may not notice some of the growth that Dan has made. Or maybe it's the fact that a lot of those changes occurred this offseason and we haven't noticed yet because the season hasn't started. South Alabama has been the absolute low point for Dan thus far- but the good thing is I think it has also spurred a lot of very positive changes for our football program on many levels. And our baseball program too.

[maroonmania]

I don't know about that. With the WR's it appears as if we are getting better with that. Billy has a four star guy committed in Malik Heath and Reggie Todd was a four star player. I think Jamal Couch will be a very good WR by the time he is a junior if not sooner. That's why I haven't been on Billy's ass like Hevesy- as long as they actually show that they are correcting mistakes I'm fine with that. And then as far as field goals we hired a NFL kicking coach and have a freshman that was an Army AA punter and we have a commitment from a kicker that is an UA All American. The problem is those spots are major weak points until the younger more talented guys develop and are ready. So, it may look like it hasn't been addressed when it really has been for a couple of years.

Also a lot of people thought he wouldn't get rid of Sallach but he did move him to the front office before Sallach went nuts and left on his own. And you mentioned Grantham already.

So, I do think that Dan has grown as a coach. To me, we really have one major problem spot that hasn't been corrected and he's the subject of this thread. Cohen is probably going to have to be the one that manages it.

I think we were so scarred by Croom being stubborn that we may not notice some of the growth that Dan has made. Or maybe it's the fact that a lot of those changes occurred this offseason and we haven't noticed yet because the season hasn't started. South Alabama has been the absolute low point for Dan thus far- but the good thing is I think it has also spurred a lot of very positive changes for our football program on many levels. And our baseball program too.

Sorry Todd, I'm not cutting Gonzales any slack at all for right now. If he gets Heath and some other good WR prospects to SIGN this coming year and then we see production in a year or two I will, but not for now. Our WR situation should have NEVER gotten into its current shape. Gonzales was our WR coach on signing day 2016 when we signed ONE WR prospect on that day (Couch). Gonzales was our WR coach on signing day 2017 when we AGAIN signed ONE WR prospect (Williams) on signing day. Yes, I'm glad that Todd gave up basketball for football and became available later and that Mitchell got his academics together and was available later but that shouldn't be the way we have to do business. And I don't think most services had Todd as a 4 star as I remember it. But regardless, for all the crap we give Hev with not filling up his spots with quality prospects, Gonzo has been just as bad and maybe even worse the last couple of recruiting cycles. We better hope some of what we have on campus grow up this year and become solid contributors. Gray and Myles won't be here anymore next year and that doesn't leave much behind that's halfway proven other than slot guys Mixon and Dear (our WR in a RB's body). And during the same time frame we've signed TE prospects galore.

[Todd4State]

Sorry Todd, I'm not cutting Gonzales any slack at all for right now. If he gets Heath and some other good WR prospects to SIGN this coming year and then we see production in a year or two I will, but not for now. Our WR situation should have NEVER gotten into its current shape. Gonzales was our WR coach on signing day 2016 when we signed ONE WR prospect on that day (Couch). Gonzales was our WR coach on signing day 2017 when we AGAIN signed ONE WR prospect (Williams) on signing day. Yes, I'm glad that Todd gave up basketball for football and became available later and that Mitchell got his academics together and was available later but that shouldn't be the way we have to do business. And I don't think most services had Todd as a 4 star as I remember it. But regardless, for all the crap we give Hev with not filling up his spots with quality prospects, Gonzo has been just as bad and maybe even worse the last couple of recruiting cycles. We better hope some of what we have on campus grow up this year and become solid contributors. Gray and Myles won't be here anymore next year and that doesn't leave much behind that's halfway proven other than slot guys Mixon and Dear (our WR in a RB's body). And during the same time frame we've signed TE prospects galore.

Let's see where Couch and Todd are at the end of the year. I think we're going to feel a lot better about the WR situation in January.

I do agree that we have to stop moving guys like Justin Johnson to TE because they get to 220.

[Quaoarsking]

Mullen is a 7 to 9 win coach. He will never be any more than that because he won't do the things necessary to be elite. Biggest factor is he won't hold ALL of his coaches accountable. He holds the defensive coaches accountable but not the offensive coaches, chief among those being Hevesy. Getting Grantham was a GREAT move but that doesn't do squat for the fact that we don't have enough quality OL and WRs. Mullen also appears to care less if we have someone that can kick a FG.

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