Who would you hire to be our next OC?

[HIGHDOG]

i can think of a coupla coaches that i'd fire ahead of les...tom

[Fred's Love Boat]

CDM will be callin the playes regardless of whom the offensive coordnator is jus my opinion

[smootness]

This is Edenfield's QBs in his time there.
Levi Brown - 201 for 326, 2030 yards, 15td, 3int, 33rush for 17 yards
Levi Brown - 321 for 504, 4254 yards, 23td, 9int, 54rush for 7 yards
Corey Robinson - 318 for 501, 3707 yards, 28td, 15int, 48rush for -100 yards
Corey Robinson - 316 for 508, 3411 yards, 21td, 15int, 46rush for -78 yards
Corey Robinson - 258 for 390, 3141 yards, 12td, 9int, 21rush for -47 yards
current Corey Robinson - 77 for 102 - 870 yards, 7td, 3int, 7rush for -18 yards

Are any of these a significant step up from Russell's 231 for 394, 2897 yards, 24td, 10int last year?

[dawgs]

find a FCS OC running an uptempo creative offense putting up 600 yds/game. i don't care who it is. that's how oregon landed kelly.

[engie]

Are any of these a significant step up from Russell's 231 for 394, 2897 yards, 24td, 10int last year?

Yes. It is MUCH better than Russell in MSU's current offense.

Troy frequently uses a dual QB system. They even run 2 QBs on the field at the same time. The point was how EDENFIELD used a pass-first spread QB with lead feet in a way that allowed great success to their overall offense.

This is Troy's OVERALL passing rankings under Edenfield.
#7(current), #8, #17, #12, #4, #33(year1)...

This is MSU's OVERALL passing rankings under Mullen/Koenning.
#62(current), #59, #94, #87, #113(year1)...

You tell me which is working better...

[Jack Lambert]

You would think some poster from this messasge board would apply reading some of the posts. There is just too much football expertise here to let go to waste.

[smootness]

Yes. It is MUCH better than Russell in MSU's current offense.

Troy frequently uses a dual QB system. They even run 2 QBs on the field at the same time. The point was how EDENFIELD used a pass-first spread QB with lead feet in a way that allowed great success to their overall offense.

This is Troy's OVERALL passing rankings under Edenfield.
#7(current), #8, #17, #12, #4, #33(year1)...

This is MSU's OVERALL passing rankings under Mullen/Koenning.
#62(current), #59, #94, #87, #113(year1)...

You tell me which is working better...

But the efficiency isn't really any better. They're just throwing it a whole lot more.

['Merica Dawg]

Les has been here for 5 years and nothing has changed. I have a feeling that anything less than a bowl game and Egg Bowl victory and Les(s) O'Koening will be fired.

Just curious who are some candidates you guys think would be a good fit as our OC?

I have heard some say Troy's OC Ken Hatenfield (he was HC at Southwest MS for a couple years)

Any other names from small schools, or position coaches at other schools who would be good fits as our OC?

It's my understanding Mullen had staff changes in mind prior to the start of the 2013 season for "performance" reasons.

[engie]

But the efficiency isn't really any better. They're just throwing it a whole lot more.

You are really arguing that Troy's offense isn't alot more efficient than ours?

Total Offense
current - Troy #14, MSU #60
2012 - Troy #11, MSU #80
2011 - Troy #65, MSU #84
2010 - Troy #17, MSU #42
2009 - Troy #3, MSU #69

Yards/Play
current - Troy 6.87, MSU 5.80
2012 - Troy 6.2, MSU 5.85
2011 - Troy 5.26, MSU 5.39
2010 - Troy 5.91, MSU 5.75
2009 - Troy 6.49, MSU 5.39
5 yr average: Troy 6.146, MSU 5.636

Form an argument based on something next time, please... Instead of just arguing for the sake of arguing.

That 18 inch/play difference over 5 years makes a difference of 30-40 spots in the offensive pecking order across the country, which is a big ass difference...

No one would be complaining if we were consistently in the top 50 in these categories...

[Dawgfan77]

It's my understanding Mullen had staff changes in mind prior to the start of the 2013 season for "performance" reasons.

Can you elaborate on this.

['Merica Dawg]

I wasn't given any specific names but I have a couple that come to mind... As I am sure you do too. I will see if I can get some more concrete details tho.

[Johnson85]

But the efficiency isn't really any better. They're just throwing it a whole lot more.

They are throwing with success against equal or better talent.

We light up lesser talent and do so-so against equal talent, and struggle big time against better talent.

[engie]

They are throwing with success against equal or better talent.

We light up lesser talent and do so-so against equal talent, and struggle big time against better talent.

Making the difference I highlighted even more drastic...

I can break down my overall "how good the offenses are against the quality of defense they face" ratings if need be...