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    Mullen happened

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutt the Hoople View Post
    You can be funny (or attempt to be), you can be serious, whatever. However, after the WonderWoman rope of truth is thrown around all those characters, what do you think actually happened up in Oxford? Because these are all conjectures, the om shitbirds can't sue us.

    My theory is: Hugh Freeze set up a payment system to pay 5-*'s just to visit. This may go on at big-time universities, but it's usually handled by wannabes (not even boosters). At om, it was the coaching staff and boosters doing this. Then, they brought in some "talent" to ply their trade with these recruits, some from Memphis (ie, Out Of State, thus Federal Charges of Soliciting).

    Then, if the player committed elsewhere, the boosters/coaching staff blackmailed them by telling them they had tape of their money transactions and "dates". If they didn't commit to om, they threaten to release the tapes and they'd become ineligible.

    The ones who went to Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc., the Rebs couldn't touch. However, the two who went to The Mississippi State University they decided to "out" because they thought we were "jes po' lil Misisipi State"...not realizing we have a real Bulldog in John Cohen, a politically-connected and saavy President in Mark Keenum, and a completely anal Compliance Director in Bracky Brett.

    om is 17ed.
    If you pull the microscope way back you can trace this thing all the way back to the hiring of Dan Mullen. Mullen beat them three years in a row and their fragile egos could not stand it. They made the decision right then and there to do absolutely whatever it takes to try and best Mississippi State.

    They would stop at nothing.

    They hired a con of a head coach who actively instilled a defense system around him to cover his deeds while he blatantly cheated in every way possible. That defense system he used was his faith. And ultimately, of all the awful things Ole Miss has done, using Christianity to mask, cover up their cheating and using it to attack anyone who questioned them, is BY FAR the worst.

    They love to play the ole tired line of "everyone cheats". True, every program, every year, has some kind of impropriety take place. In the vast majority of FBS programs though, the "cheating" that happens is a rogue booster, who the university couldn't possibly control, goes out on his own and gives some recruit, usually from his home town, some kind of improper benefits. Ole Miss fans don't understand that only in maybe a very small handful of programs does cheating go on like what happened at Ole Miss. It is NOT normal for coaching staffs and head coaches to ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE in the cheating. That is extremely rare and very stupid because sooner or later it will be discovered.

    Ole Miss is guilty thus far of:

    1) Academic Fraud
    2) Slush Fund for Paying Players
    3) Pay for Play
    4) LOIC
    5) Improper Contact
    6) And probably soon to be hiring whores to sleep with underage kids

    That's as deep into cheating you can possibly get. And to add insult to injury they did under the guise of a charlatan who loved to tell you how holy he was so he could shut down any debate.

    And the best part of all this is that we just fought their biggest effort to try to surpass us as a program and we won the war. During Freeze's tenure State won more ball games (40-39), our highs were higher than their highs (number 1 in the nation, vs number 3), and our lows were higher than their lows (going to St. Petersburg bowl vs. sitting at home), and finally, the last game Hugh Freeze will ever coach in he got his teeth kicked in all while playing with a bunch of hired guns. State did all this by doing things the right way and not defiling ourselves or our university.

    Now we have the opportunity to dismantle them once and for all. It's imperative over the next decade that we capitalize on this upcoming wilderness that they'll be walking through and establish ourselves as the undisputed dominant program in the state. The hard part is accomplished. Now we have to turn our attention to something that we directly control, winning football games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail State View Post
    If you pull the microscope way back you can trace this thing all the way back to the hiring of Dan Mullen. Mullen beat them three years in a row and their fragile egos could not stand it. They made the decision right then and there to do absolutely whatever it takes to try and best Mississippi State.

    They would stop at nothing.

    They hired a con of a head coach who actively instilled a defense system around him to cover his deeds while he blatantly cheated in every way possible. That defense system he used was his faith. And ultimately, of all the awful things Ole Miss has done, using Christianity to mask, cover up their cheating and using it to attack anyone who questioned them, is BY FAR the worst.

    They love to play the ole tired line of "everyone cheats". True, every program, every year, has some kind of impropriety take place. In the vast majority of FBS programs though, the "cheating" that happens is a rogue booster, who the university couldn't possibly control, goes out on his own and gives some recruit, usually from his home town, some kind of improper benefits. Ole Miss fans don't understand that only in maybe a very small handful of programs does cheating go on like what happened at Ole Miss. It is NOT normal for coaching staffs and head coaches to ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE in the cheating. That is extremely rare and very stupid because sooner or later it will be discovered.

    Ole Miss is guilty thus far of:

    1) Academic Fraud
    2) Slush Fund for Paying Players
    3) Pay for Play
    4) LOIC
    5) Improper Contact
    6) And probably soon to be hiring whores to sleep with underage kids

    That's as deep into cheating you can possibly get. And to add insult to injury they did under the guise of a charlatan who loved to tell you how holy he was so he could shut down any debate.

    And the best part of all this is that we just fought their biggest effort to try to surpass us as a program and we won the war. During Freeze's tenure State won more ball games (40-39), our highs were higher than their highs (number 1 in the nation, vs number 3), and our lows were higher than their lows (going to St. Petersburg bowl vs. sitting at home), and finally, the last game Hugh Freeze will ever coach in he got his teeth kicked in all while playing with a bunch of hired guns. State did all this by doing things the right way and not defiling ourselves or our university.

    Now we have the opportunity to dismantle them once and for all. It's imperative over the next decade that we capitalize on this upcoming wilderness that they'll be walking through and establish ourselves as the undisputed dominant program in the state. The hard part is accomplished. Now we have to turn our attention to something that we directly control, winning football games.
    100% agree with everything you said but you forgot $800 and $13K cash to sign, cars for players, free hotel for family, free rides to Oxford , and free swag for recruits have all been caught by the NCAA.
    Death penalty or bust!!!***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    100% agree with everything you said but you forgot $800 and $13K cash to sign, cars for players, free hotel for family, free rides to Oxford , and free swag for recruits have all been caught by the NCAA.
    Don't forget ACT fraud letting some of these "students" play at TSUN when they couldn't play anywhere else. Decades ago I played with a Mr. Football Alabama who was recruited by Stallings. He never went to college because he made something like a 7 on the ACT. If Saunders had been at TSUN back then, he would have miraculously taken it again and made a 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail State View Post
    If you pull the microscope way back you can trace this thing all the way back to the hiring of Dan Mullen. Mullen beat them three years in a row and their fragile egos could not stand it. They made the decision right then and there to do absolutely whatever it takes to try and best Mississippi State.

    They would stop at nothing.

    They hired a con of a head coach who actively instilled a defense system around him to cover his deeds while he blatantly cheated in every way possible. That defense system he used was his faith. And ultimately, of all the awful things Ole Miss has done, using Christianity to mask, cover up their cheating and using it to attack anyone who questioned them, is BY FAR the worst.

    They love to play the ole tired line of "everyone cheats". True, every program, every year, has some kind of impropriety take place. In the vast majority of FBS programs though, the "cheating" that happens is a rogue booster, who the university couldn't possibly control, goes out on his own and gives some recruit, usually from his home town, some kind of improper benefits. Ole Miss fans don't understand that only in maybe a very small handful of programs does cheating go on like what happened at Ole Miss. It is NOT normal for coaching staffs and head coaches to ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE in the cheating. That is extremely rare and very stupid because sooner or later it will be discovered.

    Ole Miss is guilty thus far of:

    1) Academic Fraud
    2) Slush Fund for Paying Players
    3) Pay for Play
    4) LOIC
    5) Improper Contact
    6) And probably soon to be hiring whores to sleep with underage kids

    That's as deep into cheating you can possibly get. And to add insult to injury they did under the guise of a charlatan who loved to tell you how holy he was so he could shut down any debate.

    And the best part of all this is that we just fought their biggest effort to try to surpass us as a program and we won the war. During Freeze's tenure State won more ball games (40-39), our highs were higher than their highs (number 1 in the nation, vs number 3), and our lows were higher than their lows (going to St. Petersburg bowl vs. sitting at home), and finally, the last game Hugh Freeze will ever coach in he got his teeth kicked in all while playing with a bunch of hired guns. State did all this by doing things the right way and not defiling ourselves or our university.

    Now we have the opportunity to dismantle them once and for all. It's imperative over the next decade that we capitalize on this upcoming wilderness that they'll be walking through and establish ourselves as the undisputed dominant program in the state. The hard part is accomplished. Now we have to turn our attention to something that we directly control, winning football games.
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