https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...=1000390011644

For the MSU connection, he's coached at MSU twice. 78-80 he was RB/WR coach and 93-95 he was OC. Excellent interview on the PMS. He's the ultimate players coach. The new book is the QB Whisperer and he talks some about what it takes to be a great QB and the number 1 trait is grit. That's easily Dak's best trait. Plus some great league stories and anecdotes. Start at 1:07 in. This is a pod so there is language.