Guess the NCAA Penalties:

[DancingRabbit]

I pegged them with LOIC when I saw 3 (THREE) different sports charged, and Academic Fraud. Not one soul was in charge up there, and they had no system in place to monitor their staff while the NCAA was all up in their shit for years on end.

Has an AD ever received a show cause? Seems like Bjork has earned one.

[Reason2succeed]

That's my point. Expectations need to be tempered a bit. They will get hammered and their program set back 5 years, but the matrix will not be followed verbatim. They aren't getting 80 schollies and a 10 year bowl ban.

I don't quite understand why you are so concerned with other people's expectations. Your concern that message board posters will embarrass you and MSU is a little over the edge. Maybe you should try Buddha instead of Confucius.*** (That's a religious philosophy joke. Don't get your panties too wadded up.)

If the matrix isn't going to be followed then the NCAA should not have put it out there. Someone is going to get embarrassed in this situation: OM or the NCAA. OM has pissed in the NCAA's cheerios and is now gaslighting them saying they haven't. Additionally OM has boosters going to newfound lengths to obstruct "justice" which will have ramifications if allowed to work. And you think the NCAA should go light? If I were on the COI I would throw the book at them not because they are OM but because of the threat their actions pose to amateur student athletics.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

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[SheltonChoked]

50+ scholarships over 5+ years (no more than 10/year)
6 years of probation
3 year bowl ban
show causes for: Derrick Nix (4), Maurice Harris (4), Hugh Freeze (10-12), Bjork (10 years) and Barney Farrar(8) [Other AD positions also get show causes, but I don't care enough to look up who]
Suspensions for: Chris Kiffin(8 games) and Matt Luke (6 games)
Booster clubs disassociated
All games back to 2006 (Powe) forfeited/Vacated
Frozen SEC Revenue

[Reason2succeed]

Wrong thread

[redstickdawg]

50+ scholarships over 5+ years (no more than 10/year)
6 years of probation
3 year bowl ban
show causes for: Derrick Nix (4), Maurice Harris (4), Hugh Freeze (10-12), Bjork (10 years) and Barney Farrar(8) [Other AD positions also get show causes, but I don't care enough to look up who]
Suspensions for: Chris Kiffin(8 games) and Matt Luke (6 games)
Booster clubs disassociated
All games back to 2006 (Powe) forfeited/Vacated
Frozen SEC Revenue

I like this!

[WSOPdawg]

50+ scholarships over 5+ years (no more than 10/year)
6 years of probation
3 year bowl ban
show causes for: Derrick Nix (4), Maurice Harris (4), Hugh Freeze (10-12), Bjork (10 years) and Barney Farrar(8) [Other AD positions also get show causes, but I don't care enough to look up who]
Suspensions for: Chris Kiffin(8 games) and Matt Luke (6 games)
Booster clubs disassociated
All games back to 2006 (Powe) forfeited/Vacated
Frozen SEC Revenue

I think this is closer to true than those thinking 30 schollies. Myself I'm at 45 schollies over 4 years with a 3-year bowl ban and with 5+ years probation.

[WSOPdawg]

I don't quite understand why you are so concerned with other people's expectations. Your concern that message board posters will embarrass you and MSU is a little over the edge. Maybe you should try Buddha instead of Confucius.*** (That's a religious philosophy joke. Don't get your panties too wadded up.)

If the matrix isn't going to be followed then the NCAA should not have put it out there. Someone is going to get embarrassed in this situation: OM or the NCAA. OM has pissed in the NCAA's cheerios and is now gaslighting them saying they haven't. Additionally OM has boosters going to newfound lengths to obstruct "justice" which will have ramifications if allowed to work. And you think the NCAA should go light? If I were on the COI I would throw the book at them not because they are OM but because of the threat their actions pose to amateur student athletics.

Reason, you and me have been calling this all along -- that the NCAA is going to apply the matrix to TCUN and make an example out of them. Everything TCUN has done sans 2016 to obstruct the NCAA's process of justice will do them no favors as they're gonna be hammered into oblivion.

[Reason2succeed]

Reason, you and me have been calling this all along -- that the NCAA is going to apply the matrix to TCUN and make an example out of them. Everything TCUN has done sans 2016 to obstruct the NCAA's process of justice will do them no favors as they're gonna be hammered into oblivion.

My question to the "30 over 3" crowd is why? Why should the NCAA deviate from their matrix and go light on OM?

If it is because they are scared to hammer a "big time" D1 football program then there will be lawsuits from smaller schools and Title IX issues because they have hammered and shut down athletic programs for much less. If I were one of those programs or a coach or SA at one of those programs I would be calling a lawyer if OM skates.

[Pollodawg]

My question to the "30 over 3" crowd is why? Why should the NCAA deviate from their matrix and go light on OM?

If it is because they are scared to hammer a "big time" D1 football program then there will be lawsuits from smaller schools and Title IX issues because they have hammered and shut down athletic programs for much less. If I were one of those programs or a coach or SA at one of those programs I would be calling a lawyer if OM skates.

You are aware that 30 over 3 would keep them out of a bowl game for the better part of a decade, right? USC got that, and they still haven't recovered. OM ain't USC. It would end them.