John Does sues ethics commission and Steve Robertson

[bulldogsmsu]

http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/201...sion-over.html

This whole ordeal is so strange. I feel like I am in the twilight zone. You can't make this stuff up.

[craigmid]

Is it ironic that I am reading this in a Taco Bell drive through?

[Political Hack]

They just filed the suit in order to request a stay. It'll be granted, and honestly it should be, until the court can review what's going on and speed up the proceedings. It's a delay tactic and probably the only immediate way they can stop the release of the name, but they're running out of options. In my opinion, it just a matter of time.

[ShotgunDawg]

They just filed the suit in order to request a stay. It'll be granted, and honestly it should be, until the court can review what's going on and speed up the proceedings. It's a delay tactic and probably the only immediate way they can stop the release of the name, but they're running out of options. In my opinion, it just a matter of time.

So why don't they release every name but his?

Also, what's the problem with Rosebowl releasing all the names himself and say, "these are the people in the NOA."

If the truth is a defense, what does he have to worry about?

[Political Hack]

So why don't they release every name but his?

Also, what's the problem with Rosebowl releasing all the names himself and say, "these are the people in the NOA."

If the truth is a defense, what does he have to worry about?

Winning the lawsuit and having to deal with the pain in the butt for 5 years are two different things. Steve could do that, and eventually win in my opinion, but it would be a huge headache over the next several years. OR... or... or... he could just wait and let it come out in accordance with state law, much like he's doing. Patience is the right choice here. There's no need to rush this epic saga along.

[HSVDawg]

So why don't they release every name but his?

This is what I'd like to know. There are like 15 boosters called out in the NOA. Regardless of what happens with this stay, they still have to release all the other names besides this John Doe based on the order of the Ethics Commission, unless they all file similar motions. Is this correct?

[Schultzy]

This is what I'd like to know. There are like 15 boosters called out in the NOA. Regardless of what happens with this stay, they still have to release all the other names besides this John Doe based on the order of the Ethics Commission, unless they all file similar motions. Is this correct?

Can all 15 boosters named take turns going through the appeals process one at a time in order to delay it another couple years or more?

These boosters have powerful friends in government who can not control the NCAA but would will let the Ethics Commission go down in flames before allowing names released and will go to the nines to do so.

Hate to be the Debbie Downer on this but I'd be very surprised if we EVAR see the names released.

[gtowndawg]

Still, Rosebowl has to spend money to defend himself. We need to have a Rosebowl defense fund.

[PassInterference]

They just filed the suit in order to request a stay. It'll be granted, and honestly it should be, until the court can review what's going on and speed up the proceedings. It's a delay tactic and probably the only immediate way they can stop the release of the name, but they're running out of options. In my opinion, it just a matter of time.

Might not be granted. They filed an appeal of the preliminary ruling and were immediately shot down so fast that they withdrew the appeal. I assume they didn't want to be on record as losing so they could try again right now.

I'd say 75% chance the appeal doesn't get heard. I think we'll get those names within 2-4 weeks.

[Political Hack]

Might not be granted. They filed an appeal of the preliminary ruling and were immediately shot down so fast that they withdrew the appeal. I assume they didn't want to be on record as losing so they could try again right now.

I'd say 75% chance the appeal doesn't get heard. I think we'll get those names within 2-4 weeks.

It might be that soon, but it would've been 7 days otherwise. It's the last bullet they have right now and they fired it. Makes sense. If it works, maybe they get a few weeks or months. If it doesn't, you've probably still delayed it a week or two.

[StoneDawg]

If Rosebowl gets sued we need to start a go fund me page.

[confucius say]

So why don't they release every name but his?

Also, what's the problem with Rosebowl releasing all the names himself and say, "these are the people in the NOA."

If the truth is a defense, what does he have to worry about?

Truth is a defense to a defamation claim. John Doe is arguing he has a right to privacy that extends to not having his name made public. He is wrong. Although he does have a protected property interest under the due process clause in his lawsuit, he has no right to privacy in this context.

[confucius say]

Might not be granted. They filed an appeal of the preliminary ruling and were immediately shot down so fast that they withdrew the appeal. I assume they didn't want to be on record as losing so they could try again right now.

I'd say 75% chance the appeal doesn't get heard. I think we'll get those names within 2-4 weeks.

They withdrew the previous appeal because it was procedurally flawed. Can't appeal an ethics committee ruling until it is a final order, which happened July 14.

[confucius say]

Wait.... Rosey's lawyer is from a firm named Langston and Lott? from Boonville? Langston from Boonville? Oh the irony

Casey is a good guy. State grad. Ole miss law school though (ha, some irony).

[confucius say]

For clarity, John Doe isn't suing Steve or anybody else. He filed a notice of appeal of the ethics committee ruling. Additionally, since that appeal will not be heard in the next week (the deadline for OM to comply and release names), he filed essentially what is a preliminary injunction asking the Court to stay the release of the names until his appeal can be heard.

He most likely will get his stay, but when he does, and this is key, that in no way implies he will win his appeal. The release of the names by OM will just be stayed until John Doe's appeal is heard and decided. Hope this helps.

[Political Hack]

For clarity, John Doe isn't suing Steve or anybody else. He filed a notice of appeal of the ethics committee ruling. Additionally, since that appeal will not be heard in the next week (the deadline for OM to comply and release names), he filed essentially what is a preliminary injunction asking the Court to stay the release of the names until his appeal can be heard.

He most likely will get his stay, but when he does, and this is key, that in no way implies he will win his appeal. The release of the names by OM will just be stayed until John Doe's appeal is heard and decided. Hope this helps.

That's what I tried to say. You said it better though.

[PassInterference]

I remember a post last year where someone asked why we didn't challenge the Will Redmond situation. The response was that there was a lot more to the story than anyone knew.

I can imagine there is A LOT more to the NCAA investigation into OM athletics than any of us will ever know.

We went to summary disposition. That basically means you admit guilt, don't fight anything, and throw yourself at the mercy of the NCAA. You agree to take whatever medicine they give you with no appeal. Do not go to the COI, do not collect $200, go directly to jail.

[Bucky Dog]

MY question is the Ethics Commision gave this moron the chance to have his particular name redacted, by just telling him which booster number he was in the NOA, so why didn't he do that? He refused and led them no choice. The ethics commision said OK then release it all, including whichever number you are. So again, my belief is this is a concerted effort by all of OM to delay any release of ALL names in the NOA.

What everyone is saying is it is only going to delay the inevitable. They think by suing everyone, for free, that everyone will back down because of the potential costs of litigation to those against them. Well you see that we are all willing to back our brothers such as Rosey as our players, so good luck with that shitbirds! Click a few ads so we can continue to bring you the truth!

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

MY question is the Ethics Commision gave this moron the chance to have his particular name redacted, by just telling him which booster number he was in the NOA, so why didn't he do that? He refused and led them no choice. The ethics commision said OK then release it all, including whichever number you are. So again, my belief is this is a concerted effort by all of OM to delay any release of ALL names in the NOA.

What everyone is saying is it is only going to delay the inevitable. They think by suing everyone, for free, that everyone will back down because of the potential costs of litigation to those against them. Well you see that we are all willing to back our brothers such as Rosey as our players, so good luck with that shitbirds! Click a few ads so we can continue to bring you the truth!

It's the ole miss way. They're doing the same thing in the Lindsey Miller lawsuit. They've changed lawyers twice and have requested and been awardees delays. No wonder this state is so far behind with their bs.

[Bully13]

what do y'all think of an opinion I saw on nafoom the other day? some dude said the booster names will produce nothing exciting because the big time donors would not be on any kind of list. they donate under the radar to keep their identities unknown. sounded legit.

just trying to widen the discussion. any opinions on this opinion? thoughts?