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NCAA Considering Opening up Transfer Rules: Thoughts?
ESPN just went left wing again, had Finebaum on, & discussed how the NCAA is considering not making a player sit out a year & allowing players to transfer where they want. Of course, the Sportscenter anchor couldn't fathom why the NCAA won't allow players to transfer freely & Finebaum agreed.
Some of these people are so removed from reality that they lack the perspective to have a valuable opinion.
How would open transfers work in the SEC?
- Bama would get everyone's best players to fill the few holes on their roster (Does Dak Prescott transfer to Bama for his SR year?)
- Tampering with players on your current roster by the likes of Hugh Freeze (my bad, he'll be gone), Muschamp, Bama, Orgeron, Harbaugh, etc would be unfathomable.)
- Would ultimately lead to players getting paid because schools would get sick of the transfers & would be willing to pay players in an effort to lock them into a contract. At which point, there would be a college football draft & trades would potentially be on the table.
Point is, by allowing open transfers, the entire system breaks down & becomes a slippery slope to future legislation.
Just tired on ignorant ESPN analysts, that have no clue how the SEC works & how that type of system can't/won't work in this region of the country, speaking about things they have no clue about. All in the name of inclusion & players being allowed to do what they want.
Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 07-02-2017 at 10:02 AM.
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It would crush a program like Mullen runs. We are no question a developmental program, When we are getting ready to maximize a player's talent these upper level schools like you stated would swoop in and get them.
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If they do this, it'll have to have a penalty.
For example... Every transfer that can play immediately costs you 2 scholarships toward 85. Thats just a quick thought off top of my head.
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Worst. Idea. Ever. It'd be a wet dream, though, for programs like bama and those that cheat like TSUN.
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I can't imagine it would ever pass because there are far more developmental programs in the country that would be hurt by the rule than there are power & cheating programs that would benefit from it.
Next thing you know, we'll have travel bans by the certain states, who want the rule, in the name of student athletes being discriminated against because their are consequences to them wanting to transfer
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This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.
Great.....
So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Great.....
So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea
Wow, you must think those guys have really high character....
And I didn't say it was a good idea.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.
We don't offer immediate playing time to transfers. So this rule would absolutely crush us. We lose good players and don't get others that want to transfer.
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Terrible idea. Every team but the top 20-30 would be considered a minor league team. The top 20-30 would treat the other 90 teams as feeder teams. It would kill college football. I know I'd be done with it.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
Terrible idea. Every team but the top 20-30 would be considered a minor league team. The top 20-30 would treat the other 90 teams as feeder teams. It would kill college football. I know I'd be done with it.
I don't think it would even be the top 20-30 because I think you could make an argument that many years we fit in that group. I think you are looking at about the top 15 schools using everyone else as a minor league team.
What if you could make money off a transfer?
Say, if Bama wants Dak Prescott, they have to pay MSU $1 million dollars? Then over time, MSU could build up enough money to go out & buy other people's players?
So there would still be an incentive to develop players as it would eventually lead to you getting more good players.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I don't think it would even be the top 20-30 because I think you could make an argument that many years we fit in that group. I think you are looking at about the top 15 schools using everyone else as a minor league team.
What if you could make money off a transfer?
Say, if Bama wants Dak Prescott, they have to pay MSU $1 million dollars? Then over time, MSU could build up enough money to go out & buy other people's players?
So there would still be an incentive to develop players as it would eventually lead to you getting more good players.
At that point you use what little amateurism you have left in college football I think. I guess I need to move past the days of players playing for school pride but some part of me still holds on to that. Allow me to live in my fantasy!
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Great.....
So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea
I don't think you'd see near the stars transfer in sec programs you'd think.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
ESPN just went left wing again, had Finebaum on, & discussed how the NCAA is considering not making a player sit out a year & allowing players to transfer where they want. Of course, the Sportscenter anchor couldn't fathom why the NCAA won't allow players to transfer freely & Finebaum agreed.
Some of these people are so removed from reality that they lack the perspective to have a valuable opinion.
How would open transfers work in the SEC?
- Bama would get everyone's best players to fill the few holes on their roster (Does Dak Prescott transfer to Bama for his SR year?)
- Tampering with players on your current roster by the likes of Hugh Freeze (my bad, he'll be gone), Muschamp, Bama, Orgeron, Harbaugh, etc would be unfathomable.)
- Would ultimately lead to players getting paid because schools would get sick of the transfers & would be willing to pay players in an effort to lock them into a contract. At which point, there would be a college football draft & trades would potentially be on the table.
Point is, by allowing open transfers, the entire system breaks down & becomes a slippery slope to future legislation.
Just tired on ignorant ESPN analysts, that have no clue how the SEC works & how that type of system can't/won't work in this region of the country, speaking about things they have no clue about. All in the name of inclusion & players being allowed to do what they want.
Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
I get your point, but the tone of the conversation had more of bathroom law type feel to it. People not being held accountable for their decision feel to it
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
Exactly! We trust the free market EXCEPT when we don't. Socialism is bad EXCEPT when WE like it.
It won't be the end of CFB. No, every star player wouldn't transfer because Bama only has one football. When players go to Bama and realize they aren't seeing PT for thre years they would be able to come to state and player sooner. We would still have to develop our players and treat the well and hope they stay.
Of course there would be more movement but we never complain about the coaches moving.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Exactly! We trust the free market EXCEPT when we don't. Socialism is bad EXCEPT when WE like it.
It won't be the end of CFB. No, every star player wouldn't transfer because Bama only has one football. When players go to Bama and realize they aren't seeing PT for thre years they would be able to come to state and player sooner. We would still have to develop our players and treat the well and hope they stay.
Of course there would be more movement but we never complain about the coaches moving.
We have the free market now. As I said earlier, ANY player can transfer as a student anytime they like (which is supposed to be the first objective in college) but with sports they just have to sit out the one year. If they have a redshirt year left they don't even really give up any eligibility. Even the free market has rules. You can't jump from one company to another and use proprietary secrets. You have to often sign a non-compete on bidding for certain contracts when you move. Its not nor has it ever been a free for all in the economic free market nor should it be for collegiate athletics. You sure can't switch NFL teams anytime you want and wait one year to play. Pretty sure its like 5 years before you can go to free agency or something like that.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
We have the free market now. As I said earlier, ANY player can transfer as a student anytime they like (which is supposed to be the first objective in college) but with sports they just have to sit out the one year. If they have a redshirt year left they don't even really give up any eligibility. Even the free market has rules. You can't jump from one company to another and use proprietary secrets. You have to often sign a non-compete on bidding for certain contracts when you move. Its not nor has it ever been a free for all in the economic free market nor should it be for collegiate athletics. You sure can't switch NFL teams anytime you want and wait one year to play. Pretty sure its like 5 years before you can go to free agency or something like that.
Would give rep if I could.
Good post. I was wondering how in the world the current system is "socialism."
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
Gotta remember, in today's political climate, "Left" equals "bad" and "Right" equals "good".
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