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    NCAA Considering Opening up Transfer Rules: Thoughts?

    ESPN just went left wing again, had Finebaum on, & discussed how the NCAA is considering not making a player sit out a year & allowing players to transfer where they want. Of course, the Sportscenter anchor couldn't fathom why the NCAA won't allow players to transfer freely & Finebaum agreed.

    Some of these people are so removed from reality that they lack the perspective to have a valuable opinion.

    How would open transfers work in the SEC?

    - Bama would get everyone's best players to fill the few holes on their roster (Does Dak Prescott transfer to Bama for his SR year?)

    - Tampering with players on your current roster by the likes of Hugh Freeze (my bad, he'll be gone), Muschamp, Bama, Orgeron, Harbaugh, etc would be unfathomable.)

    - Would ultimately lead to players getting paid because schools would get sick of the transfers & would be willing to pay players in an effort to lock them into a contract. At which point, there would be a college football draft & trades would potentially be on the table.

    Point is, by allowing open transfers, the entire system breaks down & becomes a slippery slope to future legislation.

    Just tired on ignorant ESPN analysts, that have no clue how the SEC works & how that type of system can't/won't work in this region of the country, speaking about things they have no clue about. All in the name of inclusion & players being allowed to do what they want.
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    It would crush a program like Mullen runs. We are no question a developmental program, When we are getting ready to maximize a player's talent these upper level schools like you stated would swoop in and get them.

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    If they do this, it'll have to have a penalty.

    For example... Every transfer that can play immediately costs you 2 scholarships toward 85. Thats just a quick thought off top of my head.

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    Worst. Idea. Ever. It'd be a wet dream, though, for programs like bama and those that cheat like TSUN.

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    I can't imagine it would ever pass because there are far more developmental programs in the country that would be hurt by the rule than there are power & cheating programs that would benefit from it.

    Next thing you know, we'll have travel bans by the certain states, who want the rule, in the name of student athletes being discriminated against because their are consequences to them wanting to transfer

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    This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.

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    Hell no.

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    Terrible idea. Every team but the top 20-30 would be considered a minor league team. The top 20-30 would treat the other 90 teams as feeder teams. It would kill college football. I know I'd be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.
    Great.....

    So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Great.....

    So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea
    I don't think you'd see near the stars transfer in sec programs you'd think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Terrible idea. Every team but the top 20-30 would be considered a minor league team. The top 20-30 would treat the other 90 teams as feeder teams. It would kill college football. I know I'd be done with it.
    I don't think it would even be the top 20-30 because I think you could make an argument that many years we fit in that group. I think you are looking at about the top 15 schools using everyone else as a minor league team.

    What if you could make money off a transfer?

    Say, if Bama wants Dak Prescott, they have to pay MSU $1 million dollars? Then over time, MSU could build up enough money to go out & buy other people's players?

    So there would still be an incentive to develop players as it would eventually lead to you getting more good players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Great.....

    So Bama gets Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, & McKinney, & we get their backup OL. Awesome. Sounds like a great idea
    Wow, you must think those guys have really high character....

    And I didn't say it was a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    ESPN just went left wing again, had Finebaum on, & discussed how the NCAA is considering not making a player sit out a year & allowing players to transfer where they want. Of course, the Sportscenter anchor couldn't fathom why the NCAA won't allow players to transfer freely & Finebaum agreed.

    Some of these people are so removed from reality that they lack the perspective to have a valuable opinion.

    How would open transfers work in the SEC?

    - Bama would get everyone's best players to fill the few holes on their roster (Does Dak Prescott transfer to Bama for his SR year?)

    - Tampering with players on your current roster by the likes of Hugh Freeze (my bad, he'll be gone), Muschamp, Bama, Orgeron, Harbaugh, etc would be unfathomable.)

    - Would ultimately lead to players getting paid because schools would get sick of the transfers & would be willing to pay players in an effort to lock them into a contract. At which point, there would be a college football draft & trades would potentially be on the table.

    Point is, by allowing open transfers, the entire system breaks down & becomes a slippery slope to future legislation.

    Just tired on ignorant ESPN analysts, that have no clue how the SEC works & how that type of system can't/won't work in this region of the country, speaking about things they have no clue about. All in the name of inclusion & players being allowed to do what they want.
    Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I don't think it would even be the top 20-30 because I think you could make an argument that many years we fit in that group. I think you are looking at about the top 15 schools using everyone else as a minor league team.

    What if you could make money off a transfer?

    Say, if Bama wants Dak Prescott, they have to pay MSU $1 million dollars? Then over time, MSU could build up enough money to go out & buy other people's players?

    So there would still be an incentive to develop players as it would eventually lead to you getting more good players.
    At that point you use what little amateurism you have left in college football I think. I guess I need to move past the days of players playing for school pride but some part of me still holds on to that. Allow me to live in my fantasy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    This idea definitely sucks, but I don't know if it'd be entirely one-sided against teams like us. For example, former 4 and 5 star O-linemen, that aren't cracking the 2 deep at Bama, would view our perennial shit show of an O-line as a landing spot for immediate playing time.
    We don't offer immediate playing time to transfers. So this rule would absolutely crush us. We lose good players and don't get others that want to transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
    I get your point, but the tone of the conversation had more of bathroom law type feel to it. People not being held accountable for their decision feel to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    Wouldn't that be going more "right"? That's moving more toward a free/open market. The current system is more socialistic if anything. I'm not disagreeing with your take, just making an observation.
    Gotta remember, in today's political climate, "Left" equals "bad" and "Right" equals "good".

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    I like the idea. One of the proposals would prevent coaches from restricting where a kid can transfer. The other is based of GPA and work towards completing a degree or graduating early
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Gotta remember, in today's political climate, "Left" equals "bad" and "Right" equals "good".
    Good job of translating... or should I say, right job of translating? Haha

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    I haven't read what is considered, only what has been spread. With that being said...

    IF there is unfettered transferring, it would not only increase a tampering environment, but possibly create a farm system of non-elite programs. This is my greatest fear, along with the third parties increasing ability to hold a program hostage.

    I'm all for non-restrictive, in terms of the students chosen locale, transferring between schools. But, I still like the one year rule, and two years for inner-conference.
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