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    Lottery....yes or no

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    The fairest thing would be to allow baseball to have 25 full scholarships. It would of course be up to each school to still comply with Title IX.

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    In Mississippi? I think it would be good for all students in Mississippi.

    I think it is overplayed as an advantage IMO. Our guys are getting academic scholarships and grants too. Georgia and Tennessee are in lottery states and both have struggled mightily recently.

    Ultimately I think players want to go somewhere that they can get developed and have a chance to play in MLB. If you have a good coach that can do that, that means more than the Vandy education, TOPS, because it's LSU, and Dudy-Noble has the best atmosphere and a is the nicest stadium anywhere- which are all "good" things but they're just extra benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    The fairest thing would be to allow baseball to have 25 full scholarships. It would of course be up to each school to still comply with Title IX.
    Title IX should be revised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Title IX should be revised.
    How about cutting football scholarships to 63 and giving the balance to baseball? No title 9 impact

    Football, in the universal sense, has all the cheating boosters so the impact on players will be minimal. Plus it would give many smaller schools a shot at D1 participation, so probably more D1 scholarships for players overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    How about cutting football scholarships to 63 and giving the balance to baseball? No title 9 impact

    Football, in the universal sense, has all the cheating boosters so the impact on players will be minimal. Plus it would give many smaller schools a shot at D1 participation, so probably more D1 scholarships for players overall
    I don't know. It's just that Title IX tried to be politically correct and didn't use any common sense. I personally think they should just increase college baseball scholarship numbers and be done with it and leave everyone else alone. Maybe give softball more scholarships to balance it out would seem more logical to me even though I'm pretty sure softball requires fewer players than baseball. Going from 85 to 63 seems like a lot to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Title IX should be revised.
    Maybe so, but that would take an act of Congress and presidential signature, and that's extremely unlikely.

    It would be much easier for the NCAA to just say "you can have up to 25 scholarships in baseball if you want. Just make sure you add 1* women's scholarship for every 1 baseball scholarship you add." No Title IX issues.

    *-Or however many they need to match the gender ratio of the school.

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    Just give Andy Cannizaro the scholarships that Dan Mullen inexplicably fails to use by mismanaging his roster. That could boost our baseball baseball scholarships by 4 or 5, right?

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    When Freeze doesn't sign a full class 2 years ago he claimed them as part of his self imposed sanctions. Hey Hugh, for those to count you should probably tell everyone an entire recruiting cycle early that you only intend on using 80.

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    Why shouldn't Mississippi have a lottery? The Chevron at Delta, La 2 miles from the Mississippi River bridge at Vicksburg is Louisiana's largest lottery retailer. That's Mississippi money going to Louisiana. When one of the jackpots is huge, the traffic line will be backed up 2 miles with people waiting just to get into the parking lot at the Chevron, the car tags are primarily Mississippi tags.

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    It's kind of crazy that Misssisppi has casinos in certain places but no lottery. In Texas it is exactly opposite. We have a lottery but peoplehave to go to Oklahoma or Louisiana to a casino.

    Add the baseball scholarships and scholarships to a women's sport.
    Death penalty or bust!!!***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    It's kind of crazy that Misssisppi has casinos in certain places but no lottery. In Texas it is exactly opposite. We have a lottery but peoplehave to go to Oklahoma or Louisiana to a casino.

    Add the baseball scholarships and scholarships to a women's sport.



    Hell give Vic Shaefer the extra scholly's he gets the most use out of them.

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    There is no logical reason why baseball gets f*cked the way they do.

    Title 9? No.
    Baseball is only popular in the south? No.
    Baseball doesn't bring in as much money as football? No.

    Sport
    Men Scholarship
    Women Scholarship
    Baseball/Softball 11.7 12
    Basketball - NCAA I is a head count sport 13 15
    Beach (Sand) Volleyball * - 3
    Bowling - 5
    Cross Country - NCAA limits include Track & Field 12.6
    18
    Equestrian - 15
    Fencing 4.5 5
    Field Hockey - 12
    Football - NCAA I FBS - head count sport 85
    -
    Golf 4.5 6
    Gymnastics 6.3 12
    Ice Hockey 18 18
    Lacrosse 12.6 12
    Rifle - Includes women on co-ed teams 3.6 3.6
    Rowing - 20
    Rugby - 12
    Skiing 6.3 7
    Soccer 9.9 14
    Swimming & Diving 9.9 14
    Tennis 4.5 8
    Track & Field- NCAA limits include Cross Country 12.6 18
    Triathlon - 4.5
    Volleyball 4.5 12
    Water Polo 4.5 8
    Wrestling 9.9 -
    Sum:
    233.9
    254.1
    * NCAA Division I institutions that do not sponsor indoor/traditional Women's Volleyball are allowed an annual limit of 8 equivalency scholarships for beach / sand volleyball.

    So what does baseball get for being the 3rd highest revenue producing sport in college athletics? It gets to be ranked 21st in number of scholarships out of 41 total sports. Not to mention baseball requires more active players than nearly all of the 41 sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    The fairest thing would be to allow baseball to have 25 full scholarships. It would of course be up to each school to still comply with Title IX.
    I'd like to know how many schools actually fill the 11.7 limit. It sounds like it's probably not that many. That might explain why the NCAA won't listen to the argument for more.

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    I'm pro lottery, but all it did in TN was inflate the price of college. The difference in cost between UT and state is the amount you get from the lottery windfall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Schmedlap View Post
    Just give Andy Cannizaro the scholarships that Dan Mullen inexplicably fails to use by mismanaging his roster. That could boost our baseball baseball scholarships by 4 or 5, right?
    Or the ones he doesn't use when Hevesy only signs three high school o-linemen in a class again.

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