They also say that other recruits and their families were interviewed about receiving swag from RR, to which OM notes that none of them did, which in their mind negates LL's and KJ's testimony. One question though, these interviews that OM is referencing: where these done by the NCAA, or by OM's athletic dept. during their investigation? Because if it's just OM people, that's a hugely differently thing from a NCAA immunity investigation.