Dan Wolken interviewed by Neal and Parham.

[BeardoMSU]

He brings some good perspective. Enjoy.

https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/oxfo...-ncaa-and-more

[Dawgs87]

His part starts at the 12 minute mark. Seems like he has a bad taste in his mouth for the confederates, but that's cool with me. 17 them.

[Big4Dawg]

Listening now. Makes some really good points. Good interview.

[ILOATHEBears]

Listening now. Makes some really good points. Good interview.

My question from his statements are about the penalties. He believes if the bears had fired Hey Hugh then they most likely get the self imposed penalties. Now defending Hey Hugh he thinks a suspension is coming. If that happens then there is no need to have the matrix. Wish he would have brought up how the matrix works based on level 1,2 etc...Best line to Neal was even if u take out Lewis u still have 20 penalties

[beretta]

Cliff notes:
1. Dan Wolken is very connected to the Ncaa
2. If um had fired freeze, whole thing would be over
3. Wolken thinks um is grasping for straws (as we all do)
4. UM folks really think Leo Lewis lied, purposely,
5. UM folks don't know the definition of immunity as it pertains to an NCAA investigation
6. Wolken doesn't disagree LL lied, but doubts it....references Donny Tyndalls assistant who lied, admittingly so, and still got immunity
7. Neal acknowledges and is/was very pissed off about being lied to by UM for so long
8. Parham still can't see through his red and blue glasses
9. NCAA wants Freeze, no question about it
10.Nothing with the LL case, beneficial or not, affects what happens in July
11. UM 'has an uphill battle' coming up

[jdwhite]

Cliff notes:
1. Dan Wolken is very connected to the Ncaa
2. If um had fired freeze, whole thing would be over
3. Wolken thinks um is grasping for straws (as we all do)
4. UM folks really think Leo Lewis lied, purposely,
5. UM folks don't know the definition of immunity as it pertains to an NCAA investigation
6. Wolken doesn't disagree LL lied, but doubts it....references Donny Tyndalls assistant who lied, admittingly so, and still got immunity
7. Neal acknowledges and is/was very pissed off about being lied to by UM for so long
8. Parham still can't see through his red and blue glasses
9. NCAA wants Freeze, no question about it
10.Nothing with the LL case, beneficial or not, affects what happens in July
11. UM 'has an uphill battle' coming up

He made a point of how much all the other coaches dislike Freeze when talking off the record. Made a point about it not being the normal snipping but real dislike.

Also asked an question about what did LL have to gain by lying about RR. (OM compliance appears to be the ones who connected the dots between RR, coach and LL from the text message on the coach's phone and gave it to NCAA)

[starkvegasdawg]

Cliff notes:
1. Dan Wolken is very connected to the Ncaa
2. If um had fired freeze, whole thing would be over
3. Wolken thinks um is grasping for straws (as we all do)
4. UM folks really think Leo Lewis lied, purposely,
5. UM folks don't know the definition of immunity as it pertains to an NCAA investigation
6. Wolken doesn't disagree LL lied, but doubts it....references Donny Tyndalls assistant who lied, admittingly so, and still got immunity
7. Neal acknowledges and is/was very pissed off about being lied to by UM for so long
8. Parham still can't see through his red and blue glasses
9. NCAA wants Freeze, no question about it
10.Nothing with the LL case, beneficial or not, affects what happens in July
11. UM 'has an uphill battle' coming up

So not a fan Neal is turning on them. Excellent.

[dawgoneyall]

So not a fan Neal is turning on them. Excellent.

He was still excusing or explaining how the 13 class came about.

[dawgoneyall]

No one has addressed how Leo Lewis' name is public information.

Who, what, when, where and how......

[Big4Dawg]

Thinks the NCAA will believe LL's story, although there is some difference in time. The fact that he named specifics (the car, what the booster looked liked, etc) should be enough. The story being off 1-2 hours - who cares. It's a kid who is trying to remember something that happened 2 years ago who he never thought he would have to tell someone ever again. He does not think that that kills his credibility.

[ckDOG]

Thinks the NCAA will believe LL's story, although there is some difference in time. The fact that he named specifics (the car, what the booster looked liked, etc) should be enough. The story being off 1-2 hours - who cares. It's a kid who is trying to remember something that happened 2 years ago who he never thought he would have to tell someone ever again. He does not think that that kills his credibility.

Still trying to come up with a motivation for LL to lie. Not saying he didn't or couldn't bc I don't have the facts available, but motivation is a huge part of it and I just don't see where that could come in?

Could LL and a combination of others be spiteful and lied to get OM in trouble? It's a possibility but not a likely one. No amateur player just waltzes into an NCAA office on his own accord (or at the urgency of his coach) to discuss matters that could jeopardize his amateur status and potentially fall back on his program. That's insane and not worth the risk to even the most spiteful ass holes. There is too much to lose.

Could the NCAA have pressured him into feeding them the story they wanted to complete the agenda against OM? Again, it's possible, but with the recent black eyes the NCAA has taken and with new folks running the investigative portion, this is not a risk the NCAA is likely to take.

What's happening here is that the NCAA stumbled across new info with the fallout from Tunsil and had some leads on SAs that likely took benefits. They took advantage of the opportunity to get them to confirm what they likely figured out was going on and here we are.

[cheewgumm]

My favorite part about the interview is the Rebel guys explaining how they got all the players.

first they say everyone is cheating...BUT they got all these players the "right" way...though everyone else was trying to pay them.

[TrapGame]

My favorite part about the interview is the Rebel guys explaining how they got all the players.

first they say everyone is cheating...BUT they got all these players the "right" way...though everyone else was trying to pay them.

Why would they need to cheat with that long, winning tradition and beautiful campus?******

[Mimi's Babies]

Still trying to come up with a motivation for LL to lie. Not saying he didn't or couldn't bc I don't have the facts available, but motivation is a huge part of it and I just don't see where that could come in?

Could LL and a combination of others be spiteful and lied to get OM in trouble? It's a possibility but not a likely one. No amateur player just waltzes into an NCAA office on his own accord (or at the urgency of his coach) to discuss matters that could jeopardize his amateur status and potentially fall back on his program. That's insane and not worth the risk to even the most spiteful ass holes. There is too much to lose.

Could the NCAA have pressured him into feeding them the story they wanted to complete the agenda against OM? Again, it's possible, but with the recent black eyes the NCAA has taken and with new folks running the investigative portion, this is not a risk the NCAA is likely to take.

What's happening here is that the NCAA stumbled across new info with the fallout from Tunsil and had some leads on SAs that likely took benefits. They took advantage of the opportunity to get them to confirm what they likely figured out was going on and here we are.

Tunsil was the icing on the cake....... FACT.....

[BeardoMSU]

Our pall Godfrey is telling people to "hold on to your butts"..."it's going to get weird"....and "it's going to get extremely entertaining"

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...gh-freeze-ncaa

[BeardoMSU]

Our pall Godfrey is telling people to "hold on to your butts"..."it's going to get weird"....and "it's going to get extremely entertaining"

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...gh-freeze-ncaa

Also, Godfrey claims he's been working on a (soon to be released) piece for over a year and a half that's going to be very illuminating. I'm assuming he's referring to the supposed MSU side of things in all of this.

[Negative Waves]

Also, Godfrey claims he's been working on a (soon to be released) piece for over a year and a half that's going to be very illuminating. I'm assuming he's referring to the supposed MSU side of things in all of this.

I wonder if Steve's twitter post today somewhat pertains to Godfrey's "scoop".

Link

[BeardoMSU]

I wonder if Steve's twitter post today somewhat pertains to Godfrey's "scoop".

Link

Hope so. Someone can correct me, but I can't really recall Godfrey being a sunshine pumper like a Yancy, Chuck, etc., so I find his comments pretty interesting.

[Dawgology]

Hope so. Someone can correct me, but I can't really recall Godfrey being a sunshine pumper like a Yancy, Chuck, etc., so I find his comments pretty interesting.

Godfrey has defended Ole Miss or completely ignored the facts since this all began. I would expect nothing less from him at this point. It's to be expected from Ole Miss mouthpices at this point. There will be several anti-MSU articles put out over the next couple weeks in an effort to deflect. At this point there are certain "journalists" that are absolutely incompetent (HOW can you still trust your sources on this stuff) or they are complicit with a cover-up/diversion strategy.

If he comes out with an ACTUAL fair and balanced article or one that lays out what's REALLY going on at Ole Miss then I will be truly, truly shocked.

[Reason2succeed]

Our pall Godfrey is telling people to "hold on to your butts"..."it's going to get weird"....and "it's going to get extremely entertaining"

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...gh-freeze-ncaa

I think the rebels are planning on doing something (else) stupid like suing the NCAA.

Don't forget Rebels see themselves like this