Dan Wolken interviewed by Neal and Parham.

[BeardoMSU]

He brings some good perspective. Enjoy.

https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/oxfo...-ncaa-and-more

[Dawgs87]

His part starts at the 12 minute mark. Seems like he has a bad taste in his mouth for the confederates, but that's cool with me. 17 them.

[Big4Dawg]

Listening now. Makes some really good points. Good interview.

[ILOATHEBears]

Listening now. Makes some really good points. Good interview.

My question from his statements are about the penalties. He believes if the bears had fired Hey Hugh then they most likely get the self imposed penalties. Now defending Hey Hugh he thinks a suspension is coming. If that happens then there is no need to have the matrix. Wish he would have brought up how the matrix works based on level 1,2 etc...Best line to Neal was even if u take out Lewis u still have 20 penalties

[beretta]

Cliff notes:
1. Dan Wolken is very connected to the Ncaa
2. If um had fired freeze, whole thing would be over
3. Wolken thinks um is grasping for straws (as we all do)
4. UM folks really think Leo Lewis lied, purposely,
5. UM folks don't know the definition of immunity as it pertains to an NCAA investigation
6. Wolken doesn't disagree LL lied, but doubts it....references Donny Tyndalls assistant who lied, admittingly so, and still got immunity
7. Neal acknowledges and is/was very pissed off about being lied to by UM for so long
8. Parham still can't see through his red and blue glasses
9. NCAA wants Freeze, no question about it
10.Nothing with the LL case, beneficial or not, affects what happens in July
11. UM 'has an uphill battle' coming up

[starkvegasdawg]

Cliff notes:
1. Dan Wolken is very connected to the Ncaa
2. If um had fired freeze, whole thing would be over
3. Wolken thinks um is grasping for straws (as we all do)
4. UM folks really think Leo Lewis lied, purposely,
5. UM folks don't know the definition of immunity as it pertains to an NCAA investigation
6. Wolken doesn't disagree LL lied, but doubts it....references Donny Tyndalls assistant who lied, admittingly so, and still got immunity
7. Neal acknowledges and is/was very pissed off about being lied to by UM for so long
8. Parham still can't see through his red and blue glasses
9. NCAA wants Freeze, no question about it
10.Nothing with the LL case, beneficial or not, affects what happens in July
11. UM 'has an uphill battle' coming up

So not a fan Neal is turning on them. Excellent.

[dawgoneyall]

No one has addressed how Leo Lewis' name is public information.

Who, what, when, where and how......

[Big4Dawg]

Thinks the NCAA will believe LL's story, although there is some difference in time. The fact that he named specifics (the car, what the booster looked liked, etc) should be enough. The story being off 1-2 hours - who cares. It's a kid who is trying to remember something that happened 2 years ago who he never thought he would have to tell someone ever again. He does not think that that kills his credibility.

[dawgoneyall]

So not a fan Neal is turning on them. Excellent.

He was still excusing or explaining how the 13 class came about.

[BeardoMSU]

Our pall Godfrey is telling people to "hold on to your butts"..."it's going to get weird"....and "it's going to get extremely entertaining"

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...gh-freeze-ncaa

[ShotgunDawg]

It's just amazing to take a step back and look at what cause Ole Miss is fighting for: the right to cheat

Yes, they are raising hell for the right cheat. What 17ed up world is this?

[WinningIsRelentless]

It's just amazing to take a step back and look at what cause Ole Miss is fighting for: the right to cheat

Yes, they are raising hell for the right cheat. What 17ed up world is this?

It's there safe place

[ckDOG]

Thinks the NCAA will believe LL's story, although there is some difference in time. The fact that he named specifics (the car, what the booster looked liked, etc) should be enough. The story being off 1-2 hours - who cares. It's a kid who is trying to remember something that happened 2 years ago who he never thought he would have to tell someone ever again. He does not think that that kills his credibility.

Still trying to come up with a motivation for LL to lie. Not saying he didn't or couldn't bc I don't have the facts available, but motivation is a huge part of it and I just don't see where that could come in?

Could LL and a combination of others be spiteful and lied to get OM in trouble? It's a possibility but not a likely one. No amateur player just waltzes into an NCAA office on his own accord (or at the urgency of his coach) to discuss matters that could jeopardize his amateur status and potentially fall back on his program. That's insane and not worth the risk to even the most spiteful ass holes. There is too much to lose.

Could the NCAA have pressured him into feeding them the story they wanted to complete the agenda against OM? Again, it's possible, but with the recent black eyes the NCAA has taken and with new folks running the investigative portion, this is not a risk the NCAA is likely to take.

What's happening here is that the NCAA stumbled across new info with the fallout from Tunsil and had some leads on SAs that likely took benefits. They took advantage of the opportunity to get them to confirm what they likely figured out was going on and here we are.

[cheewgumm]

My favorite part about the interview is the Rebel guys explaining how they got all the players.

first they say everyone is cheating...BUT they got all these players the "right" way...though everyone else was trying to pay them.

[TrapGame]

My favorite part about the interview is the Rebel guys explaining how they got all the players.

first they say everyone is cheating...BUT they got all these players the "right" way...though everyone else was trying to pay them.

Why would they need to cheat with that long, winning tradition and beautiful campus?******

[ShotgunDawg]

As much as we think the Rebs are bad people, I get the feeling that many of these people just really believed with their heart that they were getting players due to Oxford, beautiful campus, and Freezus. And till this day, they just can't bring themselves to see that it's all bullshit.

If you look at it from that perspective while also realizing that Freeze doesnt want them to know the truth and would rather go down as a martyr, every move they've made makes sense.

[MadDawg]

As much as we think the Rebs are bad people, I get the feeling that many of these people just really believed with their heart that they were getting players due to Oxford, beautiful campus, and Freezus. And till this day, they just can't bring themselves to see that it's all bullshit.

For your average joe-blow fan? Yes, you are right. They have believed all the b.s. propaganda from their mouthpieces in the media word for word. They are being falsely accused. First it was because they beat Alabama twice, so Alabama, the SEC and the NCAA all were trying to bring them down for some reason. Now the narrative has changed to it's all Dan Mullen and MSU's fault.

[Dawgology]

As much as we think the Rebs are bad people, I get the feeling that many of these people just really believed with their heart that they were getting players due to Oxford, beautiful campus, and Freezus. And till this day, they just can't bring themselves to see that it's all bullshit.

If you look at it from that perspective while also realizing that Freeze doesnt want them to know the truth and would rather go down as a martyr, every move they've made makes sense.

That's a great point.

[BeardoMSU]

Our pall Godfrey is telling people to "hold on to your butts"..."it's going to get weird"....and "it's going to get extremely entertaining"

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...gh-freeze-ncaa

Also, Godfrey claims he's been working on a (soon to be released) piece for over a year and a half that's going to be very illuminating. I'm assuming he's referring to the supposed MSU side of things in all of this.

[BeardoMSU]

Also thought it was funny that when Neal was asking Dan about his sources, he chimes "and I'm a journalist, too...blah blah", lol. He just had to sneak that in there in case Wolken wasn't aware; I'm sure he rolled his eyes at that, lol.