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    Freeze's Response

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B90...tUWEkzQm8/view

    Sickening. But, we finally see details of "the tape".

    "Finally, at the end of ? recruitment, Coach Freeze was told by Farrar that family had

    been offered cash payments by other schools. At the time, Coach Freeze did not know that the

    conversation had been recorded. However, Coach Freeze believes he informed Compliance of

    mother?s statement at that time; however, he is not certain, explaining that they often hear

    ?crazy things like that but very seldom have any kind of proof.? (FI No. 288, at 102).

    Shortly after Signing Day, Coach Freeze learned of a Snapchat video of holding large

    amounts of cash, apparently shopping for a new vehicle. He immediately forwarded the video to

    Compliance and told them (either for the first or second time) about mother?s statement

    because the video lent some validity to the story. Around the same time, Coach Freeze also learned

    that Farrar had recorded his conversation with mother. Coach Freeze reported that fact to

    Compliance as well. He followed up a couple of times with Compliance on these issues but was told

    that the SEC office may not give them an update unless the issue involved the University.

    Aside from his repeated communication with Compliance, this incident is noteworthy for Coach

    Freeze?s monitoring of Farrar. When Farrar first told him of the conversation, Coach Freeze?s

    immediate reaction was to ask what he had said in response. Coach Freeze was assured that Farrar

    did not offer any money and warned ? mother that she should be careful about jeopardizing

    ? eligibility. When Coach Freeze learned that the conversation was recorded, he listened to

    hear what Farrar had said. The recording matched Farrar?s representation. These actions only

    served to reinforce Coach Freeze?s trust in Farrar and demonstrate his monitoring of Farrar and

    recruitment.


    It's actually pretty slick. In just a couple of paragraphs, they tattle that MSU and Alabama both offered Leo cash, then say he took it from MSU. He says he didn't believe it until Leo outed himself on snapchat, then he covers Ole Miss on the "recording recruits" accusation by stating that Barney did it and he didn't know about it. (Now Barney's gone so he can tell recruits they no longer have to worry about that). So - we are supposed to believe that the one and only tape that Barney ever made fully exonerates Freeze, Barney, and OM? LOL - yeeeeaaaaah. That wasn't orchestrated as a CYA after the fact, was it? That was a sting by the NCAA, if anything, Freeze. You're busted.

    Also among the building himself up and tearing everyone around him down is this gem on, I suspect, Kobe:

    In a February 2016 interview, signee alleged that during the

    course of his recruitment he, and anyone with him, received free apparel from during

    trips there on at least four occasions. According to , he was instructed to ask for an employee

    named ?Emily? who would authorize him to receive roughly $500 worth of free apparel each visit.

    s claimed that Barney Farrar provided that instruction. Specifically s described going to

    s following his official visit along with all or a number of prospects on their official visit

    that weekend and receiving free apparel at the same time.

    s was a ?three star? prospect in the 2016 signing class; his official visit weekend was

    January 29, 2016. Simply put, was not as highly regarded as many other players visiting that

    weekend. For example, ?five star? prospect took his official visit that weekend.

    was interviewed and asked whether he received free apparel from s.

    who also signed with , denied ever receiving free apparel from . Indeed,

    not one of the prospects on their official visit that weekend corroborates story.

    Additionally, was very specific about asking for ?Emily.? Neither nor told a

    similar method for receiving free apparel. In response to requests by the enforcement staff and the

    University, the owner of reviewed years of employee information and confirmed that

    the store has never employed anyone named Emily. On top of that, despite claim that he

    received thousands of dollars in free apparel, not one witness?family or friend?said they saw

    s get large amounts of University apparel, wear it, or knew what happened to any of the

    merchandise he allegedly received.


    So Kobe is just a 3-star not even worth Freeze's time and efforts (at cheating). But Freeze wanted to "help" him become a better person, because that's just the kind of guy he is (see final excerpt below). PUKE

    And finally - Not sure if this is Leo or Kobe, but he had to just get in one more jab at whichever one it is:

    First, the enforcement staff points to Coach Freeze?s statement that he had a suspicion or

    ?feeling? that was seeking impermissible inducements. What Coach Freeze said specifically

    was that mentioned how he hoped his mom would be able to move to a new house and that

    said he did not have a car to travel from to Oxford. Coach Freeze explained that

    he had trouble connecting with because he believed acted like an entitled person. He

    also explained that those ?feelings? were not a reason to stop recruiting s. Instead, Coach

    Freeze?s hope was that bringing to the University would help him mature beyond that

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    attitude of entitlement. Officials from the Compliance Department have confirmed that ?feelings? or

    ?suspicions? like this one are not a reason to discontinue recruiting a prospect.


    Stay classy Hugh. Oh, and enjoy your time off when you get that 8 year show cause that's surely coming!
    Last edited by PMDawg; 06-09-2017 at 03:39 PM.

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    ****ing serpent

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    Someone should send him the Twitter pics of Paidwell holding all that cash. Anyone want to edit Wikipedia entry under hypocrite to include a picture of Freeze?

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    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    No. Not even a little bit. They are transparently drowning and thrashing about wildly. The NCAA is not that dumb.

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    Oh, and I forgot the best part - he actually blames his "only losing season" and recent poor recruiting classes on the NCAA for not wrapping up the investigation more quickly! It's towards the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    Nope. Leo didn't receive a dime from anyone associated with MSU. It's just like Cam Newton, the media and ole miss folks will say we must have paid him since he took all that money from ole miss. Surely we paid him more. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    No. Note Freeze said "he believed" the tape was given to compliance. There is no tape. If there was, the NCAA would have it, and we would have already gotten an NOA, and Bracky would have sentenced Leo to hard time at Parchman.

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    What's funny is that Freeze seems to always be the one that doesn't know what's going on, yet he's in charge.

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    We didn't have to pay Leo, he got to play for the best development school AND get paid by Ole Miss to do it.

    What's hilarious is their claim that Mullen orchestrated all this, while also saying we paid Leo....so, let me get this straight, Dan is brilliant enough to plot all of this, yet so dumb that he chose to use a guy we ACTUALLY PAID to come to MSU? Shirley OM people can't be this dumb. Who would pay the recruit they encourage to get involved knowing he would be dug into? No matter how you follow their story....it always ends in a contradiction of another part of their story
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    Only if the NCAA never plans to use immunity again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    No. Don't fall for it, Beardo.

    We're cool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    NOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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    I think I've got a consensus, lol. Forget I mentioned it...

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    There's no tape that implicates MSU. If there was they would have 'leaked' it by now.

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    Regarding Freeze's response: If the alleged tape backed up Barney's accounting of the conversation with the mother, why did Freeze fire Barney? He would have had no reason to get rid of him. And why did they totally trash him in their response to the NOA? Things don't add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Is anyone worried just a little bit about the Leo stuff coming back on us in some way?
    No, OM is basically acting like a little child that is throwing a temper tantrum because they did not get their way and is trying to place blame on the older, more mature sibling. Ultimately, outside of their fan base they just look ignorant and dumb. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ultimate melt that is currently starting to happen. Give it a few weeks and they will start to eat their own. This was one last push to try and rally the troops and it is going to fail miserably and blow up right in their faces. It will be hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    No, OM is basically acting like a little child that is throwing a temper tantrum because they did not get their way and is trying to place blame on the older, more mature sibling. Ultimately, outside of their fan base they just look ignorant and dumb. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ultimate melt that is currently starting to happen. Give it a few weeks and they will start to eat their own. This was one last push to try and rally the troops and it is going to fail miserably and blow up right in their faces. It will be hilarious.
    Is there further punishment for lying to the NCAA in the formal, written response?

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    Freeze's response... poot noises.

    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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