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Ok so let's talk starting rotation
I say:
Game 1: Billingsley
Game 2: Pilk
Game 3: Plumlee
First off, I want Pilk to be the guy deciding our season. If we lose game 1, he gets to try and keep us from being eliminated. If we win game 1, he gets to be the horse we try and ride to Omaha.
Second, I think it's obvious Gordon is no longer a viable option to start. McQuary is too inconsistent. Plumlee has done well and I think deserves the chance to start. Now if you have to have him in game 1 or 2, you use him and we can still go back to him game 3.
Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I say:
Game 1: Billingsley
Game 2: Pilk
Game 3: Plumlee
First off, I want Pilk to be the guy deciding our season. If we lose game 1, he gets to try and keep us from being eliminated. If we win game 1, he gets to be the horse we try and ride to Omaha.
Second, I think it's obvious Gordon is no longer a viable option to start. McQuary is too inconsistent. Plumlee has done well and I think deserves the chance to start. Now if you have to have him in game 1 or 2, you use him and we can still go back to him game 3.
Thoughts?
Pilk is probably going game 1 since he has had the most rest and we will need our best to go against the LSU ace. McQ did a good enough job with Plumlee backing him. I would probably leave McQ starting since we know Plumlee is good out of the pen but you never can tell how that affects a pitcher. Billingsley definitely earned the last start.
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I would throw Pilk game 1 and Plumlee game 2. Billingsley had a great outing, but he had a ton of balls that were crushed right at people all night. I think Plumlee has better stuff and is more likely to get LSU out consistently.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
I would throw Pilk game 1 and Plumlee game 2. Billingsley had a great outing, but he had a ton of balls that were crushed right at people all night. I think Plumlee has better stuff and is more likely to get LSU out consistently.
This is what I do as well, and go with Billingsley Game 3. You hope you win Game 1 without using much of your pen so you can be prepared to use whoever you need to win 1 more.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
I would throw Pilk game 1 and Plumlee game 2. Billingsley had a great outing, but he had a ton of balls that were crushed right at people all night. I think Plumlee has better stuff and is more likely to get LSU out consistently.
We have to win game one.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
We have to win game one.
Everybody that has eliminated Ole Miss in a Super Regional disagrees with this statement.
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Game one- McQuary followed by Plumlee.
Game two- Pilkington
Game three- Billingsley
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Game one- McQuary followed by Plumlee.
Game two- Pilkington
Game three- Billingsley
I would prefer ^this^, but I think Andy will go...
Pilk
McQuary followed by Plumlee
Billingsley
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Pilk, Denver, Billingsley.
And before some of you get your thongs in a wad up over your head it's just because with the way we finished the regional it's about all we can do due to rest. If we get the Saturday game 1 we get a little bit of latitude but not much.
If Oregon state is Saturday we are Saturday. Goes off how the one seed is bracketed for cws.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
Pilk, Denver, Billingsley.
And before some of you get your thongs in a wad up over your head it's just because with the way we finished the regional it's about all we can do due to rest. If we get the Saturday game 1 we get a little bit of latitude but not much.
If Oregon state is Saturday we are Saturday. Goes off how the one seed is bracketed for cws.
It's Sat night .. and agree it's Pilk game one and it's not even an argument.. the other games is whoever Cann sees in that crystal ball of his..
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And I want Pilk going in game 1 because he's our ace and the environment. I'm sorry but I can't trust they won't eat Denver alive in the first inning of a game 1. Then we are in just a smidge of trouble.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Game one- McQuary followed by Plumlee.
Game two- Pilkington
Game three- Billingsley
This is it.
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Whatever Cann and Henderson thinks is best!
Non of you guys stay as much at the Holiday Inn Express than I do!
Game one is critical, you go with your best lineup, so Pilk will start.
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I like the idea scientifically, but there's no way we don't throw our Ace in game one. Anything else and overthinking will doom us.
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Game 1 - Pilk
Game 2 - Billingsley (He's earned the right to throw that game) followed by Plumlee
Game 3 - McQuary followed by Gordon followed by everybody
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Game 1 - Pilk
Game 2 - Billingsley (He's earned the right to throw that game) followed by Plumlee
Game 3 - McQuary followed by Gordon followed by everybody
The problem with this for me is that if you don't finish it off in 2, you're in serious trouble for Game 3. McQuary and Gordon both struggle to throw strikes and miss bats. I want Plumlee and Billingsley both starting, and you determine who comes in behind them based on what is happening in the game.
I don't really understand the hesitancy in starting Plumlee over McQuary. Here are their overall numbers:
McQuary - 54 IP, 4.67 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 7.8 BB/9, 1.61 WHIP
Plumlee - 72.1 IP, 3.61 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 3.7 BB/9, 1.37 WHIP
As a SP (both with 8 starts):
McQuary - 35 IP, 5.66 ERA, 27 K/35 BB
Plumlee - 35 IP, 2.57 ERA, 28 K/12 BB
Last 5 appearances:
McQuary - 23.2 IP, 5.70 ERA, 15 K/21 BB
Plumlee - 15 IP, 3.60 ERA, 12 K/5 BB
I want our best pitchers to maximize their innings. Plumlee is better than McQuary, he has been better as a starter, and he has been better recently. I just don't see why we would start McQuary. You're guaranteeing yourself that he will have to struggle to get through innings while minimizing the impact of baserunners. I would rather have him available if necessary but to go with Plumlee and let him try to get you through at least 5-6 IP.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
The problem with this for me is that if you don't finish it off in 2, you're in serious trouble for Game 3. McQuary and Gordon both struggle to throw strikes and miss bats. I want Plumlee and Billingsley both starting, and you determine who comes in behind them based on what is happening in the game.
I don't really understand the hesitancy in starting Plumlee over McQuary. Here are their overall numbers:
McQuary - 54 IP, 4.67 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 7.8 BB/9, 1.61 WHIP
Plumlee - 72.1 IP, 3.61 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 3.7 BB/9, 1.37 WHIP
As a SP (both with 8 starts):
McQuary - 35 IP, 5.66 ERA, 27 K/35 BB
Plumlee - 35 IP, 2.57 ERA, 28 K/12 BB
Last 5 appearances:
McQuary - 23.2 IP, 5.70 ERA, 15 K/21 BB
Plumlee - 15 IP, 3.60 ERA, 12 K/5 BB
I want our best pitchers to maximize their innings. Plumlee is better than McQuary, he has been better as a starter, and he has been better recently. I just don't see why we would start McQuary. You're guaranteeing yourself that he will have to struggle to get through innings while minimizing the impact of baserunners. I would rather have him available if necessary but to go with Plumlee and let him try to get you through at least 5-6 IP.
All true but do you want to mess with what is obviously working with Plumlee out of the pen? When is the last time he started a game? He's found his groove as the long reliever I'm not sure I want to mess with that.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
All true but do you want to mess with what is obviously working with Plumlee out of the pen? When is the last time he started a game? He's found his groove as the long reliever I'm not sure I want to mess with that.
He actually pitched better as a starter than he has as a reliever, even recently.
He has proven he can do both well, and he has actually performed better as a starter, so I don't get the fear that if you move him back to a starting role, he suddenly won't be as effective.
I mean, McQuary has been worse as a starter recently than he was before. So if we're scared of anything, to me it's that McQuary will continue to do what he has done all year, but especially recently. I just don't know why you would want him starting a game in the SR if you can avoid it. And I think we can avoid it.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
All true but do you want to mess with what is obviously working with Plumlee out of the pen? When is the last time he started a game? He's found his groove as the long reliever I'm not sure I want to mess with that.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
The problem with this for me is that if you don't finish it off in 2, you're in serious trouble for Game 3. McQuary and Gordon both struggle to throw strikes and miss bats. I want Plumlee and Billingsley both starting, and you determine who comes in behind them based on what is happening in the game.
I don't really understand the hesitancy in starting Plumlee over McQuary. Here are their overall numbers:
McQuary - 54 IP, 4.67 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 7.8 BB/9, 1.61 WHIP
Plumlee - 72.1 IP, 3.61 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 3.7 BB/9, 1.37 WHIP
As a SP (both with 8 starts):
McQuary - 35 IP, 5.66 ERA, 27 K/35 BB
Plumlee - 35 IP, 2.57 ERA, 28 K/12 BB
Last 5 appearances:
McQuary - 23.2 IP, 5.70 ERA, 15 K/21 BB
Plumlee - 15 IP, 3.60 ERA, 12 K/5 BB
I want our best pitchers to maximize their innings. Plumlee is better than McQuary, he has been better as a starter, and he has been better recently. I just don't see why we would start McQuary. You're guaranteeing yourself that he will have to struggle to get through innings while minimizing the impact of baserunners. I would rather have him available if necessary but to go with Plumlee and let him try to get you through at least 5-6 IP.
It's not always about the numbers little lady. But good book
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