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Hattiesburg Regional
Interesting to me that USM has chosen to play the early game on Friday. Now we can see if they win/lose and who they pitch before deciding on a starter technically. In my opinion, we should see if they pitch their Ace and if they win or lose before making our decision. If they somehow lose, I think you go ahead and pitch Pilk in game 1 to make sure we win & face Illinois Chicago for a chance at the Regional final. Thoughts?
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Nothing to add... you nailed it. Didn't even think of that
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It's tough to have two guys prepare as a starter knowing one won't end up pitching, though. Might be tough to prepare to start on Friday, then not and have to get prepared again to pitch Saturday.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
It's tough to have two guys prepare as a starter knowing one won't end up pitching, though. Might be tough to prepare to start on Friday, then not and have to get prepared again to pitch Saturday.
Totally understand that, however we're playing with a very short handed staff, so that's a risk I think you have to take
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Problem with that is starting pitchers have game day routines and routines 4-5 days out to get themselves ready to pitch and when you don't give either guy the heads up till 2 hours before it ****s up both pitchers routines. I'd rather Cann settles on the 3 day SP rotation as soon as possible so the 3 guys can start getting ready in whatever way they each do to be ready for their turn. Relief pitchers don't need heads up, starting pitchers do.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Problem with that is starting pitchers have game day routines and routines 4-5 days out to get themselves ready to pitch and when you don't give either guy the heads up till 2 hours before it ****s up both pitchers routines. I'd rather Cann settles on the 3 day SP rotation as soon as possible so the 3 guys can start getting ready in whatever way they each do to be ready for their turn. Relief pitchers don't need heads up, starting pitchers do.
Fair enough. Can't argue that, just a thought I was having.
So what if USM loses game 1 & we win game 1 with Cole...do you dare save Pilk for the Final? I say no, Bc we don't really have a 3rd starter and to me it's more important to get to the final in 2 games. Plus, say we win, Pilk would be on short rest for the SR.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Problem with that is starting pitchers have game day routines and routines 4-5 days out to get themselves ready to pitch and when you don't give either guy the heads up till 2 hours before it ****s up both pitchers routines. I'd rather Cann settles on the 3 day SP rotation as soon as possible so the 3 guys can start getting ready in whatever way they each do to be ready for their turn. Relief pitchers don't need heads up, starting pitchers do.
True, but starts can get rearranged any weekend due to weather.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
True, but starts can get rearranged any weekend due to weather.
Usually you don't change your starting pitcher because of a rain delay unless the rain delay is in the middle of the game and lasts awhile. Also who your opponent is doesn't usually change because of a rain delay either. You don't worry about things you can't control you prepare the best you can with the information you have already. Again odds are that USM wins so you gained no advantage by waiting and actually hurt your SP's preparation/mentality by waiting till last second to let him know he is pitching.
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This ain't the majors. We can make a starter decision on the pitcher after usm plays. Our starter will be fine with relation to preparation.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
This ain't the majors. We can make a starter decision on the pitcher after usm plays. Our starter will be fine with relation to preparation.
Kinda what I was thinking. But I am not afraid to admit that I have no idea the "routines" a SEC pitcher deals with. I pitched in high school, and if I was told the day of the game, so be it.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
This ain't the majors. We can make a starter decision on the pitcher after usm plays. Our starter will be fine with relation to preparation.
Do you think you gain more of an advantage for your team and pitchers by giving them a proper heads up on when they are pitching or by switching your rotation last second cause USM got upset? Odds are USM doesn't get upset which means you then have not given either pitcher a proper heads up and you gained zero advantage by waiting to see what USM does. Basically you just ****ed yourself by trying to be cute to gain a tiny advantage.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Do you think you gain more of an advantage for your team and pitchers by giving them a proper heads up on when they are pitching or by switching your rotation last second cause USM got upset? Odds are USM doesn't get upset which means you then have not given either pitcher a proper heads up and you gained zero advantage by waiting to see what USM does. Basically you just ****ed yourself by trying to be cute to gain a tiny advantage.
More than likely we won't make a last minute decision but if we do it will be ok. Once again they ain't pros. Read commercecomet24 post explains it simply. And you're right odds are usm wins and we start Gordon which is probably what we will plan.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
This ain't the majors. We can make a starter decision on the pitcher after usm plays. Our starter will be fine with relation to preparation.
Yep! All these kids are travel ball kids and are used to pitching in whatever role is required, I.e. Starting, relieving, last minute changes. They can handle it.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Fair enough. Can't argue that, just a thought I was having.
So what if USM loses game 1 & we win game 1 with Cole...do you dare save Pilk for the Final? I say no, Bc we don't really have a 3rd starter and to me it's more important to get to the final in 2 games. Plus, say we win, Pilk would be on short rest for the SR.
We're a long way from even worrying about this, but I'd keep Cole 1st and pilk day 2 vs lsu. Pilk doesn't really give us an advantage vs Lange, but he does vs poche
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
We're a long way from even worrying about this, but I'd keep Cole 1st and pilk day 2 vs lsu. Pilk doesn't really give us an advantage vs Lange, but he does vs poche
Good point. We gotta be willing to get creative & take some risks with pitching rotation if we want to somehow go on a magical run to Omaha. Some of these decisions could backfire, but we aren't winning many Sat or Sun pitching duels going forward regardless without mixing it up. So get creative, find mismatches, and try to capitalize on the few you have.
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What are the odds that we get knocked out? Not trying to be negative just wanna see what folks think
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
What are the odds that we get knocked out? Not trying to be negative just wanna see what folks think
Very likely we don't win this Regional. Above 50% imo
USM is red hot and can swing the sticks...not to mention they are at home.
South Alabama won their conference, and was a 2 seed in the last D1 projection, so they have to be one of the toughest 3 seeds.
Meanwhile, many don't know this, but Illinois Chicago has one of the best ERA's in the country as a staff....and we all know our history this season with being shut down by a mid major pitcher that we make look like Sandy Koufax
Last edited by CadaverDawg; 05-29-2017 at 04:24 PM.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
What are the odds that we get knocked out? Not trying to be negative just wanna see what folks think
10% - you have remember that a USM player is somebody we did not want, not even Alabama... you respect they can beat you and play with focus but this is Our State and Our Regional
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
10% - you have remember that a USM player is somebody we did not want, not even Alabama... you respect they can beat you and play with focus but this is Our State and Our Regional
It's Southern Miss's Regional, and it's been our State since 1910. we just let you live in it. these snide remarks by your inbred fans are noticed. when or If you get to Baseburg we have a select group of fans who are going to sit behind your dugout and not only rip into your players like a starkville ball players momma rips into a can of potted meat but we will seek you and select fans out to verbally assault until you cry and leave. your fans are going to be hurting more than those 7 injured pitchers you have on the bench. you think you have a chance to even win 1 game when you have no pitching left? you are 2 and toasted oats boys. 2 and toast.
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