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Renfroe up to 0.230 now
His numbers are comparable to Jose Bautista. Hopefully he keeps working on it because he is seeing positive results.
Frazier is also on a tear. Mangum needs to take notes on how Frazier got to the show because swinging at dirt pitches won't even get you past AA if you even get that far.
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On May 5, Renfroe had a .205 average, .218 OBP, and .368 slugging. Now he has a .230 average, .286 OBP, and .444 slugging. His numbers are getting better as he has become more patient.
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He just hit a grand slam. Now at .239
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
He just hit a grand slam. Now at .239
vs the Cubs too, attaboy Hunter
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Renfroe also walks, raising OBP to .298. Average now .238 and slugging is .455
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Originally Posted by
KentuckyDawg13
Woah Aroldis Chapman territory
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Renfroe is currently a .259 career hitter so he is doing what he needed to do to play a while. It helps when you lead MLB in assists in the outfield and you can put the ball in the upper deck.
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Smootness and MsHev7 say he isnt good defensively
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
Smootness and MsHev7 say he isnt good defensively
Baseball reference...
oWAR = 0.5
dWAR = -0.4
WAR = 0.3
Fangraphs...
Off = 0.5
Def = -6.4
WAR = 0.1
So both sites show hunter with positive offensive value and negative defensive value. You sure you wanna pick this fight? You seem to be on the wrong end of it since you say hunter can't hit, but can play great defense
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only War I know is what Patton brought to Europe.
When an MLB OF'er is tied for the MLB lead in assists- he is good OF'er. End of story
You guys are excited about the fact he is hitting .239- you sure you wanna pick THAT fight? (.239 is still shitty be everyone's standard btw)
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
You guys are excited about the fact he is hitting .239- you sure you wanna pick THAT fight? (.239 is still shitty be everyone's standard btw)
Yes .239 is shitty. No doubt.
But in April, he hit .216 with an OBP of .231. In May he is hitting .264 with an OBP of .366. I'm more worried about improvement and adjusting than I am pure production at this point. If you have watched him you will see that he has really improved his plate discipline in the last 4 weeks. His walks to strikeout ratio has improved. He is being more disciplined and selective. And that is what he must do if he is going to stick around for years. Because we all know he can knock the crap out of it.
For the month of May his numbers were similar to those of Kris Bryant. Hunter is a work in progress. I'm rooting for him.
Last edited by somebodyshotmypaw; 05-30-2017 at 07:37 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
only War I know is what Patton brought to Europe.
When an MLB OF'er is tied for the MLB lead in assists- he is good OF'er. End of story
You guys are excited about the fact he is hitting .239- you sure you wanna pick THAT fight? (.239 is still shitty be everyone's standard btw)
First, you claimed he wouldn't stick in the majors. Now you're shifting it to, 'well, but he isn't that good'?
Second, he is not a good defensive OF, according to all the data we have. He has an extremely good arm, arguably the best in baseball, yes. That helps. But he does not have good range and does not get to as many balls as good OF do. So his lack of good defense is mitigated some by his arm but not enough to make him good overall.
He's on pace to hit 30+ HR. What is the difference between saying, 'He leads baseball in OF assists but the rest of his defense makes him below-average' and 'he hits a lot of HR but the rest of his offense makes him below-average for a RF'? They are the same thing. Defense is not assists alone, just like offense is not HR alone. In fact, assists have less impact on an OF's overall defense than HR do on a hitter's overall offense.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
First, you claimed he wouldn't stick in the majors. Now you're shifting it to, 'well, but he isn't that good'?
Second, he is not a good defensive OF, according to all the data we have. He has an extremely good arm, arguably the best in baseball, yes. That helps. But he does not have good range and does not get to as many balls as good OF do. So his lack of good defense is mitigated some by his arm but not enough to make him good overall.
He's on pace to hit 30+ HR. What is the difference between saying, 'He leads baseball in OF assists but the rest of his defense makes him below-average' and 'he hits a lot of HR but the rest of his offense makes him below-average for a RF'? They are the same thing. Defense is not assists alone, just like offense is not HR alone. In fact, assists have less impact on an OF's overall defense than HR do on a hitter's overall offense.
I havent shifted at all Socrates
I predicted 4 years ago I didnt think he would play a full season in the majors. That prediction looks like it will be incorrect. But my prediction never changed
I STATED that hitting .239 is shitty. That statement is factual.
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
I havent shifted at all Socrates
I predicted 4 years ago I didnt think he would play a full season in the majors. That prediction looks like it will be incorrect. But my prediction never changed
I STATED that hitting .239 is shitty. That statement is factual.
Depends on if he ends up hitting 30+ in homeruns and 100+ in RBIs. Plenty of guys have hit around .240 and been productive players. Jose Bautista for the majority of his career has hit below .260 and he has been an All Star 6 times.
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
only War I know is what Patton brought to Europe.
When an MLB OF'er is tied for the MLB lead in assists- he is good OF'er. End of story
You guys are excited about the fact he is hitting .239- you sure you wanna pick THAT fight? (.239 is still shitty be everyone's standard btw)
21 extra base hits (11 2b, 10 hr) is pretty good. I know you only count batting average when determining how good a hitter is
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
21 extra base hits (11 2b, 10 hr) is pretty good. I know you only count batting average when determining how good a hitter is
no- he certainly helps his cause because of his power. No doubt about it
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Batting cleanup, Hunter goes 1-4 with a two-run double last night.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Batting cleanup, Hunter goes 1-4 with a two-run double last night.
If he hits above .250, he might make an Allstar game. Other than Myers, SD has no players.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
If he hits above .250, he might make an Allstar game. Other than Myers, SD has no players.
Margot and hedges are gonna be good
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