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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Good enough to win 8 or so games but not good enough to make any real noise or win a championship.
    We didn't suddenly become Alabama or Ohio State because we were ranked #1 for 6 weeks. We are still Mississippi State University but your expectations changed and got way out if front of the steady progress that Dan has been making. It's like you went on a date with Kate Upton and now you expect her to be married to you and have 4 of your kids already.

    Btw "good enough to win 8 or so games" on average is something C34 said was IMPOSSIBLE for any coach to ever accomplish at MSU yet the one literally doing the impossible is the one you're bitching about non-stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    It's like you went on a date with Kate Upton and now you expect her to be married to you and have 4 of your kids already.
    The last thing I would be thinking of after a date with Kate Upton would be kids and marriage -

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    The last thing I would be thinking of after a date with Kate Upton would be kids and marriage -
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    The last thing I would be thinking of after a date with Kate Upton would be kids and marriage -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    We didn't suddenly become Alabama or Ohio State because we were ranked #1 for 6 weeks. We are still Mississippi State University but your expectations changed and got way out if front of the steady progress that Dan has been making. It's like you went on a date with Kate Upton and now you expect her to be married to you and have 4 of your kids already.

    Btw "good enough to win 8 or so games" on average is something C34 said was IMPOSSIBLE for any coach to ever accomplish at MSU yet the one literally doing the impossible is the one you're bitching about non-stop.
    Don't put words in my mouth. Winning 8 games a year is a huge improvement. No one is talking about consistently competing for a national championship at State in football. But I don't think it's wrong to want to at least have a legitimate shot of making it to Atlanta once every 5-8 years, either. I'm not bitching about Mullen, I'm bitching about the lazy recruiting practices across the entire staff. Mullen seems to be taking a few steps to rectify that, but the biggest culprits are on his side of the football and we haven't seen any serious staff changes over there. We're still bringing a popgun to a full on firefight.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. Winning 8 games a year is a huge improvement. No one is talking about consistently competing for a national championship at State in football. But I don't think it's wrong to want to at least have a legitimate shot of making it to Atlanta once every 5-8 years, either
    I am not putting words in your mouth but you didn't say the bolded part the last time I quoted you. You made it sound like winning 8 or so games a year was settling when unfortunately for our university it's actually doing the impossible. I want to win championships too brother. We are headed in the right direction and have been for almost a decade now. The progression is slow as molasses but keep in mind that it took Clemson basically thirty years of this steady slow molasses progression before they got their ring. If it makes you feel better our QB situation is better than almost every team in the country right now. We are getting there. Beating Alabama is the next big hurdle imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    I am not putting words in your mouth but you didn't say the bolded part the last time I quoted you. You made it sound like winning 8 or so games a year was settling when unfortunately for our university it's actually doing the impossible. I want to win championships too brother. We are headed in the right direction and have been for almost a decade now. The progression is slow as molasses but keep in mind that it took Clemson basically thirty years of this steady slow molasses progression before they got their ring. If it makes you feel better our QB situation is better than almost every team in the country right now. We are getting there. Beating Alabama is the next big hurdle imo.
    Agree with this completely. And with the game becoming more and more QB driven, that's an extremely positive thing. I just want to make sure we can protect these stud QBs we have. We've seen way too many good QBs over the years wasted at State because of horrendous OL play.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. Winning 8 games a year is a huge improvement. No one is talking about consistently competing for a national championship at State in football. But I don't think it's wrong to want to at least have a legitimate shot of making it to Atlanta once every 5-8 years, either. I'm not bitching about Mullen, I'm bitching about the lazy recruiting practices across the entire staff. Mullen seems to be taking a few steps to rectify that, but the biggest culprits are on his side of the football and we haven't seen any serious staff changes over there. We're still bringing a popgun to a full on firefight.
    And I think we will be competing for a trip to Atlanta every 5-8 years for sure as long as Mullen is here. I think we will be competing for the west every 4-5 years and that would be more than enough to keep me happy for a long time. I don't know if y'all remember just how awful the end of the kang and sly era was but it was absolutely excruciating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    And I think we will be competing for a trip to Atlanta every 5-8 years for sure as long as Mullen is here. I think we will be competing for the west every 4-5 years and that would be more than enough to keep me happy for a long time. I don't know if y'all remember just how awful the end of the kang and sly era was but it was absolutely excruciating.
    Dammit I was trying to forget those times and you reminded me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    And I think we will be competing for a trip to Atlanta every 5-8 years for sure as long as Mullen is here. I think we will be competing for the west every 4-5 years and that would be more than enough to keep me happy for a long time. I don't know if y'all remember just how awful the end of the kang and sly era was but it was absolutely excruciating.
    Aren't these the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Aren't these the same thing?
    ha ha pretty close... I basically am saying that I feel we will compete for the west closer to every 4 years than every 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. Winning 8 games a year is a huge improvement. No one is talking about consistently competing for a national championship at State in football. But I don't think it's wrong to want to at least have a legitimate shot of making it to Atlanta once every 5-8 years, either. I'm not bitching about Mullen, I'm bitching about the lazy recruiting practices across the entire staff. Mullen seems to be taking a few steps to rectify that, but the biggest culprits are on his side of the football and we haven't seen any serious staff changes over there. We're still bringing a popgun to a full on firefight.
    We had a legitimate chance at Atlanta in 2014. Dak's two interceptions in Bama territory and JRob's ill-advised dance in the end zone for a safety squashed it, but we were very very close. Dan's going into Year 9 so you should be happy.

    Recruiting could always be better but unless you're landing the #1 class in the country every year that will always be true. Building a program takes time. We are building a program here.

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