Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 41

Thread: Bear Football Players Have A Real Dilemma Quickly Approaching

  1. #1
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700

    Bear Football Players Have A Real Dilemma Quickly Approaching

    For a moment, put yourself in a Bear football player's new car.

    In early June, we will see boosters names released, new allegations made from the 2017 recruiting season, and potentially Big Beaver fired.

    If your a player, do you wait to transfer after the COI meets and run the risk of that happening in the Fall, at which point you can't transfer, or do you see the writing on the wall, make a preemptive strike, and transfer out in June?

    Big decisions coming up for these turds.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  2. #2
    Senior Member Jack Lambert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    misippi
    Posts
    13,643
    vCash
    2238605444
    If you took the money you are trapped unless you make a deal.

  3. #3
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    If you took the money you are trapped unless you make a deal.
    So OM goes into mutually assured destruction practices? Blackmail that only highlights further cheating?
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  4. #4
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    40,209
    vCash
    3700
    Honestly, it would depend on my eligibility and other factors. If I was an Ole Miss legacy from Jackson Academy and it was always my dream to be at Ole Miss I would probably stay regardless and re-evaluate after the death penalty.

    If I was a senior, I'd stay.

    If I was a junior I would probably ride it out for this season but be looking and possibly use the grad transfer rule so I could go somewhere that isn't on probation.

    Sophomore- I would stay until the hammer falls and then go when the NCAA allows transfers to go somewhere without sitting out- whenever that is.

    Freshman- Probably the same as the sophomore pretty much except know that I have the option to go the JUCO route if the NCAA doesn't allow transfers for some reason.

    I'm assuming that all of this won't be resolved until next year after Ole Miss appeals and all of that jazz.

  5. #5
    Senior Member Jack Lambert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    misippi
    Posts
    13,643
    vCash
    2238605444
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So OM goes into mutually assured destruction practices? Blackmail that only highlights further cheating?
    If you are as guilty as the school what choice do you have? They are trapped and since Ole Miss let it be known that they recorded recruits I don't think they are above blackmail.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    19,805
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    If you are as guilty as the school what choice do you have? They are trapped and since Ole Miss let it be known that they recorded recruits I don't think they are above blackmail.
    Yep. If I was a recruit I wouldn't even talk to them. They evidently, by their own people's admission, record everything you do.

  7. #7
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Honestly, it would depend on my eligibility and other factors. If I was an Ole Miss legacy from Jackson Academy and it was always my dream to be at Ole Miss I would probably stay regardless and re-evaluate after the death penalty.

    If I was a senior, I'd stay.

    If I was a junior I would probably ride it out for this season but be looking and possibly use the grad transfer rule so I could go somewhere that isn't on probation.

    Sophomore- I would stay until the hammer falls and then go when the NCAA allows transfers to go somewhere without sitting out- whenever that is.

    Freshman- Probably the same as the sophomore pretty much except know that I have the option to go the JUCO route if the NCAA doesn't allow transfers for some reason.

    I'm assuming that all of this won't be resolved until next year after Ole Miss appeals and all of that jazz.
    My assumption is that, if a JR transferred now, and the NCAA gave OM a 2 year bowl ban, the NCAA would allow that player to play immediately
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  8. #8
    Senior Member Lumpy Chucklelips's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,281
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    My assumption is that, if a JR transferred now, and the NCAA gave OM a 2 year bowl ban, the NCAA would allow that player to play immediately
    Will the NCAA have made that decision in time for them to be able to play this fall for a new team? If not, I think that will be the dilemma that the player will face. Do I take a chance that the NCAA doesn't make a ruling before the season starts?

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    3,589
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips View Post
    Do I take a chance that the NCAA doesn't make a ruling before the season starts?
    I don't believe that the NCAA will rule prior to the season starting.

  10. #10
    Senior Member yjnkdawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    5,049
    vCash
    3287
    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    I don't believe that the NCAA will rule prior to the season starting.

    With the NCAA protocol and then the way OM is dragging this thing out, I don't see anyway possible for that to happen.

  11. #11
    Senior Member yjnkdawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    5,049
    vCash
    3287
    Probably the OM football players favorite song is by the Clash. "Should I Stay Or Should I Go "

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    490
    vCash
    3200
    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    Probably the OM football players favorite song is by the Clash. "Should I Stay Or Should I Go "
    Some other AD types in SEC are forecasting an October announcement of penalties.

  13. #13
    Senior Member yjnkdawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    5,049
    vCash
    3287
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    For a moment, put yourself in a Bear football player's new car.

    In early June, we will see boosters names released, new allegations made from the 2017 recruiting season, and potentially Big Beaver fired.

    If your a player, do you wait to transfer after the COI meets and run the risk of that happening in the Fall, at which point you can't transfer, or do you see the writing on the wall, make a preemptive strike, and transfer out in June?

    Big decisions coming up for these turds.


    May 26th would fit their agenda better. Memorial Day Holiday weekend should mean less views and less comments. It's not their first rodeo on something like this. Just have to see how it plays out.

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    vCash
    3700
    The schedule looks like it will be a mid-season announcement of penalties. Somehow, I think it works out to be right after the season.

  15. #15
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Posts
    0
    vCash
    2610
    The players are screwed.

    All that is happening in the next week or two is a response by OM. It will take 50-60 days from there for the COI to respond and on into Sept-Oct for extra penalties to be handed down. OM has done what it wanted and delayed this into the season- so there isnt a player exodus before kickoff gets here.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    1,068
    vCash
    3100
    The Bear Cabal is already planning to keep prolly 60-70% of those freshmen and sophomores. They will spin, lie, and bake up half truths to keep a semblance of a team. Then there's the big when, when those players realize that they've been played and they're locked in...do they refuse to practice, quit, go work at the Shell station?

  17. #17
    Denver Airport Director
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    13,471
    vCash
    2610
    **** those shitbirds

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    2,150
    vCash
    3100
    A Real Dilemma for the Bears

    The dilemmas for the bears recruits and players that EACH must address individually:
    1. I took a "burner phones" from the recruiter(s).
    2. I, as a Recruit, took Benefits from coaches, recruiters, and boosters
    3. These Benefits include:
    a. Cars and/or Trucks (new, used and loaners)
    b. Clothes
    c. Jewelry
    d. Electronics
    e. Cell Phones (not the burner phones)
    f. AND a "STASH of CASH"

    4. MY parent/parents sold MY soul to hell and now I want out of that agreement......
    5. MY parent is looking for another school for me to transfer too...
    6. I LIED to the NCAA and they caught me....
    7. Following the MONEY... how much does the "bag man" still owe me?
    8. Who is my Booster/money guy?
    9. Is their name about to be blasted all over the media? Is this going to hurt my boosters, coaches etc. families?
    10. Where is my coach, recruiter and booster, do they have my back or are they still employed at tsun?
    11. Is my High school coach and schools name going to be in the list?
    12. Who received money at my high school?
    13. How deep is my high school coach into the mess at tsun?
    14. Will my escort/prostitute be named? Will my contact for this person be told?

    NOW lets look at a time line:

    May 26th SHOULD be the date that OM has to have their February 2017 NOA Answers to the NCAA.
    ??? CAN or Will NCAA publish the said NOA before OM does????/

    May 28 - June 2, 2017 -- Coaches meeting in Destin, FL.

    June 5th - 9th - MS Ethics Commission has AGREED to OM's statement that they will release the entire OM NCAA NOA UN-redacted as according to MS law per requested by OUR friend.

    July 2017 -- SEC Media Days in Birmingham, AL (boy this should be FUN for tsun)

    July 26, 2017, (using the 5/26) NCAA should have reviewed and either excepted or rejected the plea of OM. This is also the time period when the NCAA should set the COI meeting. Which is to be held within 30 days..

    August 26, 2017 --- COI Meeting should have been held

    October 26, 2017 -- NCAA should publish OM penalties...

    Since the FINDINGS will not be completed and published until AFTER football season starts.... How can anyone TRANSFER???

    Just saying......
    Last edited by Mimi's Babies; 05-23-2017 at 09:56 AM. Reason: Oh the tangled web one weaves....

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    2,150
    vCash
    3100
    .....
    Last edited by Mimi's Babies; 05-23-2017 at 08:30 AM.

  20. #20
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Posts
    0
    vCash
    2610
    Mimi has to be Sevendust

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.