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    Bear Football Players Have A Real Dilemma Quickly Approaching

    For a moment, put yourself in a Bear football player's new car.

    In early June, we will see boosters names released, new allegations made from the 2017 recruiting season, and potentially Big Beaver fired.

    If your a player, do you wait to transfer after the COI meets and run the risk of that happening in the Fall, at which point you can't transfer, or do you see the writing on the wall, make a preemptive strike, and transfer out in June?

    Big decisions coming up for these turds.
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    If you took the money you are trapped unless you make a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    If you took the money you are trapped unless you make a deal.
    So OM goes into mutually assured destruction practices? Blackmail that only highlights further cheating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So OM goes into mutually assured destruction practices? Blackmail that only highlights further cheating?
    If you are as guilty as the school what choice do you have? They are trapped and since Ole Miss let it be known that they recorded recruits I don't think they are above blackmail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    If you are as guilty as the school what choice do you have? They are trapped and since Ole Miss let it be known that they recorded recruits I don't think they are above blackmail.
    Yep. If I was a recruit I wouldn't even talk to them. They evidently, by their own people's admission, record everything you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So OM goes into mutually assured destruction practices? Blackmail that only highlights further cheating?
    They might silence some people like Alabama did with Logan Young

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobile Bay View Post
    They might silence some people like Alabama did with Logan Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobile Bay View Post
    They might silence some people like Alabama did with Logan Young
    Alabama had one booster to silence though.

    If OM tried to silence their crew the authorities would think they had a serial killer on their hands in Mississippi. Seriously, when up to a 10 boosters + employees within the Athletic Department were all intimately involved in this systematic cheating scheme, it would be very difficult to silence damn near 2 dozen folks. I know lettuce is cheap, but there are only so many deaths blamed on salads & falling UP stairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockeDawg View Post
    Alabama had one booster to silence though.

    If OM tried to silence their crew the authorities would think they had a serial killer on their hands in Mississippi. Seriously, when up to a 10 boosters + employees within the Athletic Department were all intimately involved in this systematic cheating scheme, it would be very difficult to silence damn near 2 dozen folks. I know lettuce is cheap, but there are only so many deaths blamed on salads & falling UP stairs.
    I have the names of nearly 2 dozen -- wonder just how many boosters, businesses etc are really out there....

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    Honestly, it would depend on my eligibility and other factors. If I was an Ole Miss legacy from Jackson Academy and it was always my dream to be at Ole Miss I would probably stay regardless and re-evaluate after the death penalty.

    If I was a senior, I'd stay.

    If I was a junior I would probably ride it out for this season but be looking and possibly use the grad transfer rule so I could go somewhere that isn't on probation.

    Sophomore- I would stay until the hammer falls and then go when the NCAA allows transfers to go somewhere without sitting out- whenever that is.

    Freshman- Probably the same as the sophomore pretty much except know that I have the option to go the JUCO route if the NCAA doesn't allow transfers for some reason.

    I'm assuming that all of this won't be resolved until next year after Ole Miss appeals and all of that jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Honestly, it would depend on my eligibility and other factors. If I was an Ole Miss legacy from Jackson Academy and it was always my dream to be at Ole Miss I would probably stay regardless and re-evaluate after the death penalty.

    If I was a senior, I'd stay.

    If I was a junior I would probably ride it out for this season but be looking and possibly use the grad transfer rule so I could go somewhere that isn't on probation.

    Sophomore- I would stay until the hammer falls and then go when the NCAA allows transfers to go somewhere without sitting out- whenever that is.

    Freshman- Probably the same as the sophomore pretty much except know that I have the option to go the JUCO route if the NCAA doesn't allow transfers for some reason.

    I'm assuming that all of this won't be resolved until next year after Ole Miss appeals and all of that jazz.
    My assumption is that, if a JR transferred now, and the NCAA gave OM a 2 year bowl ban, the NCAA would allow that player to play immediately
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    My assumption is that, if a JR transferred now, and the NCAA gave OM a 2 year bowl ban, the NCAA would allow that player to play immediately
    Will the NCAA have made that decision in time for them to be able to play this fall for a new team? If not, I think that will be the dilemma that the player will face. Do I take a chance that the NCAA doesn't make a ruling before the season starts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips View Post
    Do I take a chance that the NCAA doesn't make a ruling before the season starts?
    I don't believe that the NCAA will rule prior to the season starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    I don't believe that the NCAA will rule prior to the season starting.

    With the NCAA protocol and then the way OM is dragging this thing out, I don't see anyway possible for that to happen.

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    Probably the OM football players favorite song is by the Clash. "Should I Stay Or Should I Go "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips View Post
    Will the NCAA have made that decision in time for them to be able to play this fall for a new team? If not, I think that will be the dilemma that the player will face. Do I take a chance that the NCAA doesn't make a ruling before the season starts?
    If it is a two year Bowl ban...Current Jrs will be able to transfer after the season. USC was handed down a two year Bowl ban in June and their Jrs were able to transfer after the season. So much less if penalties are handed down during a season.

    By them being handed down during the season...the current Jrs will have to make a decision. Once that decision has to be made they will only have one more year and some will decide to stick it out. Had a two year Bowl ban come out...say now, you would see more transfers than now that they delayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    For a moment, put yourself in a Bear football player's new car.

    In early June, we will see boosters names released, new allegations made from the 2017 recruiting season, and potentially Big Beaver fired.

    If your a player, do you wait to transfer after the COI meets and run the risk of that happening in the Fall, at which point you can't transfer, or do you see the writing on the wall, make a preemptive strike, and transfer out in June?

    Big decisions coming up for these turds.


    May 26th would fit their agenda better. Memorial Day Holiday weekend should mean less views and less comments. It's not their first rodeo on something like this. Just have to see how it plays out.

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    The schedule looks like it will be a mid-season announcement of penalties. Somehow, I think it works out to be right after the season.

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    The players are screwed.

    All that is happening in the next week or two is a response by OM. It will take 50-60 days from there for the COI to respond and on into Sept-Oct for extra penalties to be handed down. OM has done what it wanted and delayed this into the season- so there isnt a player exodus before kickoff gets here.

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    The Bear Cabal is already planning to keep prolly 60-70% of those freshmen and sophomores. They will spin, lie, and bake up half truths to keep a semblance of a team. Then there's the big when, when those players realize that they've been played and they're locked in...do they refuse to practice, quit, go work at the Shell station?

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