Hunter Renfroe really slumping

[somebodyshotmypaw]

As they play in the bottom of the 11th, Renfroe is 0-5 to drop his average to .216. He is 2-22 in his last 5 games (including today). Hope he heats up. Had been staying around .250 most of the season.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

And wonder boy rookie Dansby Swanson hitting .156

[lamont]

troll

[somebodyshotmypaw]

troll

Not trolling at all. Just stating facts. I do hope he heats up. Would love to see him hit .260 this year.

[msstate7]

Bregman -1 war
Renfroe -0.2 war
Swanson -0.7 war

All will be good. Don't freak out over SSSs just yet

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Bregman -1 war
Renfroe -0.2 war
Swanson -0.7 war

All will be good. Don't freak out over SSSs just yet

It's definitely early. Renfroe can be streaky. At some point he probably goes on a 10-game tear.

[Dawg61]

I just want Renfroe to hit double digits in walks this year. I have my doubts

[BoomBoom]

Bregman -1 war
Renfroe -0.2 war
Swanson -0.7 war

All will be good. Don't freak out over SSSs just yet

all are at the point when MLB pitchers start making their adjustments. about 200 ABs. the hitter has to adjust in turn. some adjust, some never do.

(you'd think in today's stat driven world that MLB teams would look at the minor league tendencies and pitch off of that, but for some reason they don't.)

[ShotgunDawg]

Benintendi 1.4 WAR. Cough cough

[ShotgunDawg]

all are at the point when MLB pitchers start making their adjustments. about 200 ABs. the hitter has to adjust in turn. some adjust, some never do.

(you'd think in today's stat driven world that MLB teams would look at the minor league tendencies and pitch off of that, but for some reason they don't.)

They do, but it's a different world in the big leagues. ML pitcher will see if you can hit a fastball first and then go from there.

You are correct though, most hitters have trouble from about their 200th-500th AB. If they adjust through that, they are usually fine.

[The Federalist Engineer]

As they play in the bottom of the 11th, Renfroe is 0-5 to drop his average to .216. He is 2-22 in his last 5 games (including today). Hope he heats up. Had been staying around .250 most of the season.

216 has kept BJ Upton with a MLB salary for more than 10 years, hunter will be fine

[lamont]

216 has kept BJ Upton with a MLB salary for more than 10 years, hunter will be fine

It was always my assertion his bat couldnt keep him in MLB. .215 probably will keep him up the whole season tho in SD. He probably adjusts somewhat and ends up in the .235 range by season's end

[msstate7]

Swanson has an avg exit velocity of 89.65 (MLB avg is 87.69) with a BABIP of .177. I think that shows he's having some really tough luck. Swanson is gonna be fine

Compare that to benintendi's avg exit velocity of 85.37 with a BABIP of .362

[The Federalist Engineer]

Swanson has an avg exit velocity of 89.65 (MLB avg is 87.69) with a BABIP of .177. I think that shows he's having some really tough luck. Swanson is gonna be fine

Hunter and Dansby will be starters in the All Star game in a couple of years. Hunter was awesome last year, now pitchers have adjusted, now he will adjust

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Hunter and Dansby will be starters in the All Star game in a couple of years. Hunter was awesome last year, now pitchers have adjusted, now he will adjust

It's early. A 2-22 stretch can kill your average, just like a 6-10 stretch can make it jump because of the limited number of at-bats this early in the season. I also think he will adjust. San Diego will be patient with him. He just needs to keep his confidence up. I'm hoping he has a long career.

But we are seeing what everyone knew. He can flat play right field. He has the power. The question was, is, and always will be, strikeout to walk ratio and batting average. That will never change. His power and arm will never be a question. It will always be strikeouts, walks, and batting average. Always.

[smootness]

Dang it, who turned on the 34 bat signal?

[BoomBoom]

They do, but it's a different world in the big leagues. ML pitcher will see if you can hit a fastball first and then go from there.

You are correct though, most hitters have trouble from about their 200th-500th AB. If they adjust through that, they are usually fine.

exactly. in today's world why do they not already know if they can hit a fastball?

[ShotgunDawg]

exactly. in today's world why do they not already know if they can hit a fastball?

I should have said they will try to find the holes in the swing with the FB before moving on to something else.

In general, yes every MLB hitter can hit a FB, but not every MLB hitter can hit a FB in certain spots. You start with the easiest, most efficient thing to execute & go from there. Breaking balls are difficult to throw for strikes, so pitchers generally want to avoid them if they can. You always want starting pitchers to pitch off their FB because it becomes virtually impossible to control pitch counts & eat innings if they can't

[ShotgunDawg]

Swanson has an avg exit velocity of 89.65 (MLB avg is 87.69) with a BABIP of .177. I think that shows he's having some really tough luck. Swanson is gonna be fine

Compare that to benintendi's avg exit velocity of 85.37 with a BABIP of .362

Benintendi & Swanson aren't close to the same level of hitter. Benintendi as a K% of 14.7% & a BB% of 7.8% to Swanson's 25% & 5%.

Benny also hits for more power.

Better pay close attention because Benintendi has a chance to turn into this generations Wade Boggs type hitter. Dude is a rake job.

[msstate7]

Benintendi & Swanson aren't close to the same level of hitter. Benintendi as a K% of 14.7% & a BB% of 7.8% to Swanson's 25% & 5%.

Benny also hits for more power.

Better pay close attention because Benintendi has a chance to turn into this generations Wade Boggs type hitter. Dude is a rake job.

I'm certainly not claiming Swanson will be a better hitter than benintendi bc I don't believe that, but I think you're judging both waaaaayyyy too early. Neither have 250 MLB PAs yet. Both are at approx 100 PAs in '17 and you're using those numbers to portray their careers?