I just cant be mad at this baseball team

[ScoobaDawg]

Belmont better not make an error for the rest of the season or I will set twitter on fire.....all you have to do to get him out is throw high and outside....you can bet your ass our scouting report has maneiri not needing viagra.....pitching to him is like everyone throwing curve balls to Wrea....

Is this a serious threat?
Some of y'all got damn problems

[ScoobaDawg]

You come across much better than me. I'm not anti-Cann... I love the guy and think he's a HR. I just really don't like running cohen in the ground. Cohen won the sec last year and left a team that has a chance to repeat going into the last weekend. There's no reason why John Cohen should be run down by state fans

Exactly it's horrible luck or a horrible training regime by our former pitching coach. Either way Pretty dumb to say Cohen left a shitty team. Was plenty of talent on the team signed. Sadly they are injured right now. No way you can put down Cohen for the job he did.

[ScoobaDawg]

This. I'd add our guys are scrappy as hell, and keep fighting to the end, but I agree with RP on this one. Mstate7, you are notorious for cherry-picking stats, sometimes useless ones to "win" an argument. Don't get me wrong, I use that tactic a lot myself.

But that's what I think you are doing here. I love this team, and get annoyed when some of you start declaring the "game over/season over/host over" almost every time we fall behind a few runs early in a game. But as much as I really admire how these kids have fought back to win so many times, it has definitely felt as though we were playing with "house money", and that the time was coming where we were gonna get hit with a dose of reality.

Until this week, they had just found a way, in spite of our deficiencies, and it finally caught up to us. Hopefully they can find a way to overcome them again vs LSU. These kids have shown us they can do it. Do I think we are more talented than LSU? No, not with our injuries. Do I think we will sweep LSU? Not likely, but I damn sure would not bet against it, and I damn sure won't be one of those fans who declares the sky is falling in the 3rd inning.

These kids have earned the right for me to hang in there with them to the last strike of the last out of the last game. I admire heart and fight. Our boys have got that in spades.

Damn right... as been said over and over we have overachieved so much this year. So anyone bitching that we STILL have a chance to win the SEC Overall. (We Sweep. UK takes 2 against UF)
going in to the last week is just crazy. We will still finish top 4 likely with a single win over LSU and host.
It is really annoying how crazy a lot of posters go any time we are losing...and they want to just say oh it's because a games going on. Well if that's your excuse to continue looking dumb when the team overachievers.. well then I guess keep looking dumb.

[Commercecomet24]

You know sometimes baseball can't be judged by stats alone...of course if you've never played it you wouldn't understand...

Great post! I love your thoughts on baseball! We think alike.

[lamont]

Exactly it's horrible luck or a horrible training regime by our former pitching coach. Either way Pretty dumb to say Cohen left a shitty team. Was plenty of talent on the team signed. Sadly they are injured right now. No way you can put down Cohen for the job he did.

It's only dumb to those incapable of understanding. The team that Cann inherited in January is not in the top 10 of the SEC in talent. It's dumb to argue that it is.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Is this a serious threat?
Some of y'all got damn problems

I will short their stock when the market opens if he literally plans on setting them on fire!

[msstate7]

It's only dumb to those incapable of understanding. The team that Cann inherited in January is not in the top 10 of the SEC in talent. It's dumb to argue that it is.

Name of order of talent then 1-10

[MarketingBully]

I think our biggest problem under Cohen is we have gone after some big time players that had no intention of going to college. If you get players like Austin Riley or Greg Pickett to come to college, this team would have been in great shape but in all honesty, were those kids really going to come to college? Heck, we couldn't even get players like Lowe or Kruger to come back to help repeat which as I said in a different thread teams like LSU do.

Cohen continued to do this method as well in 2017 by signing Quentin Holmes. That kid probably is going in the first round out of high school. No way he comes to college. I am hoping that Cann reverses this trend and utilizes his scouting contacts along with getting word of mouth from the kids themselves to recruit high level high ceiling kids that will come to college that Cann can develop and turn into first round draft picks. No doubt Cann is a great motivator and can get the most out of whoever he has (which is a sign of a great coach btw). As stated as well, he was a master at finding kids that were high level high ceiling kids that ended up going to LSU. I think he can do that here as well. Going to be fun to watch in the future regardless.

[dawgoneyall]

Went to ARK series. Didn't think we would win 5 conference games. This is all gravy. Although I got greedy here at the end.

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

I agree at the start of the year if you had of told me we would be fighting for an overall SEC Title with two series to go I would've bet the house against you! This team has been phenomenal for the most part this year. Really only had two bad series when you take a look back at this year how could you get mad at this team! I do get mad as hell like everybody win we lose but in reality we should be praising this team and coaching starff for the effort and fortitude they've displayed!! True Bulldogs for sure!

[MarketingBully]

I agree at the start of the year if you had of told me we would be fighting for an overall SEC Title with two series to go I would've bet the house against you! This team has been phenomenal for the most part this year. Really only had two bad series when you take a look back at this year how could you get mad at this team! I do get mad as hell like everybody win we lose but in reality we should be praising this team and coaching starff for the effort and fortitude they've displayed!! True Bulldogs for sure!

Sure, but we lost to one of the worst teams in the league and scored two runs in 18 innings against a pitching staff worse then ours. I could have taken losing the A&M series over losing this one. We would be further down the pecking order but ironically we would be in better position to host. Losing 2/3 to UGA at this stage killed our RPI so bad that it might have crushed us to a two seed. No excuse losing to this UGA team. This was the first series that UGA won at home. They were a horrible home team.

[smootness]

I think our biggest problem under Cohen is we have gone after some big time players that had no intention of going to college. If you get players like Austin Riley or Greg Pickett to come to college, this team would have been in great shape but in all honesty, were those kids really going to come to college? Heck, we couldn't even get players like Lowe or Kruger to come back to help repeat which as I said in a different thread teams like LSU do.

Cohen continued to do this method as well in 2017 by signing Quentin Holmes. That kid probably is going in the first round out of high school. No way he comes to college. I am hoping that Cann reverses this trend and utilizes his scouting contacts along with getting word of mouth from the kids themselves to recruit high level high ceiling kids that will come to college that Cann can develop and turn into first round draft picks. No doubt Cann is a great motivator and can get the most out of whoever he has (which is a sign of a great coach btw). As stated as well, he was a master at finding kids that were high level high ceiling kids that ended up going to LSU. I think he can do that here as well. Going to be fun to watch in the future regardless.

They were not likely to ever come back. I don't know why we focus on Lowe so much. He was drafted in the 13th round. You're unlikely to ever bring back a college junior drafted there. Collins, Tatum, and Sexton were all drafted after him, and we don't feel disappointed they didn't come back. He was also drafted by the Rays, who drafted his brother, and he is now able to play with him again. And Kruger got $395,000 to sign. We weren't ever bringing him back with an offer like that, and Cannizaro wouldn't have changed that.

Kramer Robertson was a 32nd round pick. He isn't comparable to these guys. And I don't buy that LSU is getting all these high-ceiling kids into school. That program is and always has been built on good college players without tons of pro potential. They're not getting a bunch of top HS kids to come to school. I think anyone expecting or hoping for a seismic shift in our ability to bring in top players or keep good juniors is going to be disappointed. The best strategy for college recruiting is to identify one or two top 100 kids that want to go to school and can pay for it...which, good luck on all that...and then grabbing a bunch of kids in the 100-300 range that are far more likely to go to school, then identify some others who are raw but have talent.

I just don't see all these high-ceiling guys LSU is bringing in. They got Deichmann, he's one, and he did nothing as a freshman. Then they have Lange, who was ranked #134 out of HS. They're not some great team. They just always have a team full of good, solid players, not a bunch of huge studs.

I think where Cann can help us move forward is in getting more of the guys in the 100-300 range and identifying overlooked talent.

[MarketingBully]

They were not likely to ever come back. I don't know why we focus on Lowe so much. He was drafted in the 13th round. You're unlikely to ever bring back a college junior drafted there. Collins, Tatum, and Sexton were all drafted after him, and we don't feel disappointed they didn't come back. He was also drafted by the Rays, who drafted his brother, and he is now able to play with him again. And Kruger got $395,000 to sign. We weren't ever bringing him back with an offer like that, and Cannizaro wouldn't have changed that.

Kramer Robertson was a 32nd round pick. He isn't comparable to these guys. And I don't buy that LSU is getting all these high-ceiling kids into school. That program is and always has been built on good college players without tons of pro potential. They're not getting a bunch of top HS kids to come to school. I think anyone expecting or hoping for a seismic shift in our ability to bring in top players or keep good juniors is going to be disappointed. The best strategy for college recruiting is to identify one or two top 100 kids that want to go to school and can pay for it...which, good luck on all that...and then grabbing a bunch of kids in the 100-300 range that are far more likely to go to school, then identify some others who are raw but have talent.

I just don't see all these high-ceiling guys LSU is bringing in. They got Deichmann, he's one, and he did nothing as a freshman. Then they have Lange, who was ranked #134 out of HS. They're not some great team. They just always have a team full of good, solid players, not a bunch of huge studs.

Poche, Freeman, and Deichman all came back on top of Robertson. That would have been the equivalent of Kruger, Lowe, and for good measure Austin Sexton coming back. Freeman went before Kruger in the draft btw.

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

Sure, but we lost to one of the worst teams in the league and scored two runs in 18 innings against a pitching staff worse then ours. I could have taken losing the A&M series over losing this one. We would be further down the pecking order but ironically we would be in better position to host. Losing 2/3 to UGA at this stage killed our RPI so bad that it might have crushed us to a two seed. No excuse losing to this UGA team. This was the first series that UGA won at home. They were a horrible home team.

Oh Im not happy at all not defending that shit show this weekend!!

[smootness]

Poche, Freeman, and Deichman all came back on top of Robertson. That would have been the equivalent of Kruger, Lowe, and for good measure Austin Sexton coming back. Freeman went before Kruger in the draft btw.

But it's likely that Freeman didn't get close t the offer Kruger did. $395,000 is not an amount a college junior is going to turn down. I just don't know why we think it's disappointing that we couldn't keep Kruger or that Cann would have been able to talk him into returning.

I'll give them credit for getting Poche back. The others were taken in rounds 20, 26, and 32. That's not nearly as impressive. Our players were better than theirs, that's why we had so many leave.

[BB30]

I think our biggest problem under Cohen is we have gone after some big time players that had no intention of going to college. If you get players like Austin Riley or Greg Pickett to come to college, this team would have been in great shape but in all honesty, were those kids really going to come to college? Heck, we couldn't even get players like Lowe or Kruger to come back to help repeat which as I said in a different thread teams like LSU do.

Cohen continued to do this method as well in 2017 by signing Quentin Holmes. That kid probably is going in the first round out of high school. No way he comes to college. I am hoping that Cann reverses this trend and utilizes his scouting contacts along with getting word of mouth from the kids themselves to recruit high level high ceiling kids that will come to college that Cann can develop and turn into first round draft picks. No doubt Cann is a great motivator and can get the most out of whoever he has (which is a sign of a great coach btw). As stated as well, he was a master at finding kids that were high level high ceiling kids that ended up going to LSU. I think he can do that here as well. Going to be fun to watch in the future regardless.

Eh, you have to take some chances on guys like that. If we didn't sign him somebody else would. You have no way of knowing what could happen in a kid's senior year that could drop his draft stock enough for him to end up coming to school. We just got really unlucky with Pickett and the way the phillies draft worked out that year. You have to have some top end talent to consistently finish in the top of the SEC. Our biggest issue is the way schollies work out for state compared to the Vandys, LSUs, and UF's of the world. All three of those programs sign top 5 round talent and get them to campus on a pretty consistent basis because they can offer them a full ride. A few years ago Vandy had several kids on their roster that were drafted in the top 10 rounds out of high school.

I do agree that we need to continue to find those high ceiling raw guys but then the complaint from our fans will be that none of those kids are contributing until their jr year. Examples are T stratton, Dakota Hudson, Hunter Renfroe, etc. You have to find a way to have a good mix of both and or find guys that may not be pro prospects due to size or projectibility but have some sec tools.

[MarketingBully]

Eh, you have to take some chances on guys like that. If we didn't sign him somebody else would. You have no way of knowing what could happen in a kid's senior year that could drop his draft stock enough for him to end up coming to school. We just got really unlucky with Pickett and the way the phillies draft worked out that year. You have to have some top end talent to consistently finish in the top of the SEC. Our biggest issue is the way schollies work out for state compared to the Vandys, LSUs, and UF's of the world. All three of those programs sign top 5 round talent and get them to campus on a pretty consistent basis because they can offer them a full ride. A few years ago Vandy had several kids on their roster that were drafted in the top 10 rounds out of high school.

I do agree that we need to continue to find those high ceiling raw guys but then the complaint from our fans will be that none of those kids are contributing until their jr year. Examples are T stratton, Dakota Hudson, Hunter Renfroe, etc. You have to find a way to have a good mix of both and or find guys that may not be pro prospects due to size or projectibility but have some sec tools.

Out of all the top end guys we signed, who did we actually get to campus?

[lamont]

Name of order of talent then 1-10

Name 1 SEC pitching staff we have more talent than? That's half your team. Then at least half the SEC has better overall position players 1-8 than we do.

[msstate7]

Name 1 SEC pitching staff we have more talent than? That's half your team. Then at least half the SEC has better overall position players 1-8 than we do.

Our depth sucks no doubt, but I think pilk, self, and price could all make all sec

[shoeless joe]

Click bait post by RP...and I fell for it.

Contradicts himself again and again. At some point cann will do something he disagrees with and he'll pick stats out that support some strange argument of how cann is underachieving and we could do better. Of course, baseball is so much more than stats. They're useful and do give a glimpse but are never the end all be all...especially in a season that lasts less than 70 games.

RP getting greedy again trying to come off as some all sports guru. Knowing ones strengths and weaknesses is a key to success...RP should stick to his strengths, football and trolling rebelbears.