Still don't understand how Cohen could

[lamont]

There's a ball change you're not taking into account

It wouldnt matter. LSU didnt bunt as much as we did the last few years

[Todd4State]

It wouldnt matter. LSU didnt bunt as much as we did the last few years

Actually with Cann there they bunted 36 times to our 35 last year. And then his first year they bunted 31 times. We're about on pace with what his offenses have typically done in that arena.

Kentucky leads the conference far and away in bunts with 42 compared to our 28 which ranks fourth in the SEC currently.

And we all know who Kentucky's coach is.

[lamont]

Actually with Cann there they bunted 36 times to our 35 last year. And then his first year they bunted 31 times. We're about on pace with what his offenses have typically done in that arena.

Kentucky leads the conference far and away in bunts with 42 compared to our 28 which ranks fourth in the SEC currently.

And we all know who Kentucky's coach is.

A) Maneiri was making alot of those calls
B) As I stated- they didnt bunt as much as us the last few years. 10 more bunts by us over them in 2015. That's alot.

Sac Bunting has its place in baseball- just not in the 1st 3 innings

[CadaverDawg]

A) Maneiri was making alot of those calls
B) As I stated- they didnt bunt as much as us the last few years. 10 more bunts by us over them in 2015. That's alot.

Sac Bunting has its place in baseball- just not in the 1st 3 innings

One post before this, you used LSU bunting stats to defend your point, then in the next post you used "Manieri made some of those calls" to defend another. C'mon man.

Side note: Nothing pisses me off more than someone that says "never do _____" in baseball. That's what makes baseball special, that every game and every situation is different. Like yesterday, one might say "Never let Jolly throw fastballs to this guy", and Jolly threw 4 straight heaters and K'd the guy without him taking the bat off his shoulder. Fooled him completely.
Same can be said for sac bunting early. If a guy has your number and you have a chance to scratch a run across, sometimes the situation calls for it. And despite the criticism many gave Cohen for his bunting...we won a lot of close games where our momentum started from a bunt single, scratching a run out with a sac bunt, or bunting and our opponent making an error on it. Cohen knew he had Butch and that it wouldn't take but a few runs to get the job done...and he was usually right. Then last year....no Butch, less bunt. Give Cohen some credit...just bc he didn't win the way some of you would have tried to win....he won, a lot.
But the whole, "never sac bunt early in a game" thing is just hot air. You do what you gotta do to win, and nobody knows their team like the coach...so there's a method to whatever chess move is made. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Saying "no place for bunting early in a game" is just someone trying to seem like they know more than they do about baseball imo. This side note is not directed at any one person either, just my thoughts in general.

I'll get off my soapbox now. I just hate when people use absolutes in baseball. Baseball is NEVER a game of absolutes.

[lamont]

One post before this, you used LSU bunting stats to defend your point, then in the next post you used "Manieri made some of those calls" to defend another. C'mon man.
I'll get off my soapbox now. I just hate when people use absolutes in baseball. Baseball is NEVER a game of absolutes.

Allow me to explain it to you since you missed it.

I was showing that Cann's bunt numbers were more in line with LSU's strategy- not with the Bunting Meddler we had as coach previously.

I also pointed out last season that when Cohen stopped bunting as much- our offense got better and we went on that run in the SEC last year. Our fewest number of bunts in the Cohen Era contributed to us winning an SEC Title for the 1st time since 1989. We stopped giving sooooo many outs away

As to your absolutes portion of your post- we'll just disagree. I'm a firm believer in playing for the big inning early on. You dont give away outs early in the game. We had pitchers walk 2 straight batters to get themselves in trouble- then Cohen would bunt to let the pitcher off the hook by giving him an out. Make the pitcher have to battle to get that 1st out- dont just hand it to him. There is always a little bit of relief when you get an out. Dont give that away for free. Keep him in turmoil- make him earn his way out of it.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

As to your absolutes portion of your post- we'll just disagree. I'm a firm believer in playing for the big inning early on. You dont give away outs early in the game. We had pitchers walk 2 straight batters to get themselves in trouble- then Cohen would bunt to let the pitcher off the hook by giving him an out. Make the pitcher have to battle to get that 1st out- dont just hand it to him. There is always a little bit of relief when you get an out. Dont give that away for free. Keep him in turmoil- make him earn his way out of it.

I'm not a fan of absolutes. If you see rain coming and think the game will only go 5 innings, then the third inning is actually the same as the 7th in a normal game. Maybe you play for a run in the third, use your setup guy in the fourth, your closer in the fifth, and take home a victory.

[CadaverDawg]

I'm not a fan of absolutes. If you see rain coming and think the game will only go 5 innings, then the third inning is actually the same as the 7th in a normal game. Maybe you play for a run in the third, use your setup guy in the fourth, your closer in the fifth, and take home a victory.

Yep, and playing absolutes like RP, is why he could never be a SEC coach. Bc teams would play their infield back til the 6th inning allowing no balls through bc they know their opponent never bunts before the 6th. They would also throw a RHP bc their opponent will bench his best hitter for a lefty that hits .200. The reason you can't deal in absolutes is bc you have to be at least a little unpredictable, or else you're too easy to prepare for.

[dawgoneyall]

It wouldnt matter. LSU didnt bunt as much as we did the last few years

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