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    Self imposing a second bowl ban?

    Heard from a distinguished State alum yesterday he's talked to a couple of om lawyer friends saying that om will impose a second bowl ban soon. They are attempting to self inflict enough wounds so the NCAA doesn't come for the full pound of flesh.

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    That is cute that they think doing this Right Before the hammer drops is going to help them. They haven't done anything yet with all the coaches still on staff that committed the violations and they haven't disassociated any boosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    That is cute that they think doing this Right Before the hammer drops is going to help them. They haven't done anything yet with all the coaches still on staff that committed the violations and they haven't disassociated any boosters.
    They have disassociated at least 8 boosters. That's a huge amount and shows an extreme level of cheating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    They have disassociated at least 8 boosters. That's a huge amount and shows an extreme level of cheating

    Have they? One of the obvious ones is still sponsoring/advertising on the Rebel Yell radio show.

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    HUM...... Just 8 Boosters

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    They have disassociated at least 8 boosters. That's a huge amount and shows an extreme level of cheating
    I notice on a forum (for that other school) that one of the so called disassociated boosters is still advertising his business on a OM forum page.... Does this not count as not another NOA issue?

    Is the list of these boosters public now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies View Post
    I notice on a forum (for that other school) that one of the so called disassociated boosters is still advertising his business on a OM forum page.... Does this not count as not another NOA issue?

    Is the list of these boosters public now?
    No, just can't donate to the school. I've also said all along that being disassociated doesn't mean shit. They still funnel the money to the school through others.

    They also wear the "Disassociated Booster" like a badge of honor. Swaggering from one tailgate to another knowing when they leave everybody will whisper he's the guy that got us Player X.

    Hell, the people at the tailgates love to have him come by just so they can brag Mr. Bigshot Booster comes by their tailgate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    No, just can't donate to the school. I've also said all along that being disassociated doesn't mean shit. They still funnel the money to the school through others.

    They also wear the "Disassociated Booster" like a badge of honor. Swaggering from one tailgate to another knowing when they leave everybody will whisper he's the guy that got us Player X.

    Hell, the people at the tailgates love to have him come by just so they can brag Mr. Bigshot Booster comes by their tailgate.
    I'd like a map of these tailgates when you have a moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    No, just can't donate to the school. I've also said all along that being disassociated doesn't mean shit. They still funnel the money to the school through others.

    They also wear the "Disassociated Booster" like a badge of honor. Swaggering from one tailgate to another knowing when they leave everybody will whisper he's the guy that got us Player X.

    Hell, the people at the tailgates love to have him come by just so they can brag Mr. Bigshot Booster comes by their tailgate.
    IF the boosters are donating money to the NETWORK..... HOW are they using an OM 501(c)3 (non-profit) as a tax deduction??????/ Maybe the IRS needs to investigate the mess at OM also....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Heard from a distinguished State alum yesterday he's talked to a couple of om lawyer friends saying that om will impose a second bowl ban soon. They are attempting to self inflict enough wounds so the NCAA doesn't come for the full pound of flesh.
    I am amazed at the lengths OM is going to in order to hopefully save Freeze. Won't really matter once the show cause comes down but for now it looks like they are willing to take a big dose of medicine in hopes of keeping him. At first I just thought they just wanted grounds to get rid of him to make sure they wouldn't have to pay him anything in a settlement but given all of the allegations the University has already agreed with in even the first NOA it seems they would already have more than enough justification for that. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a school offer up a 2 year bowl ban while still retaining the HC involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I am amazed at the lengths OM is going to in order to hopefully save Freeze. Won't really matter once the show cause comes down but for now it looks like they are willing to take a big dose of medicine in hopes of keeping him. At first I just thought they just wanted grounds to get rid of him to make sure they wouldn't have to pay him anything in a settlement but given all of the allegations the University has already agreed with in even the first NOA it seems they would already have more than enough justification for that. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a school offer up a 2 year bowl ban while still retaining the HC involved.
    I am conflicted on why they want to keep him so bad. He is a decent coach if he gets that level talent. You don't beat Bama with a bad coach. However, the level of allegations that is just public is enough that a normal coach would have been fired. Of course UNM has kept a lot out of the public so far. Either they think firing Beaver is an admission of guilt and they are going to try to fight it or Beaver has threatened to bring people down with him.

    There is another possibility: The Network knows that they won't be able to get even a decent coach to come there and agree to let the Network have the impact in the program going forward. They know that to get recruits to their "beautiful campus", they have to cheat their ass off just to get them to visit. Any coach that wants a future in coaching isn't going to let the atmosphere of Sodom and Gomorrah raining down on recruits with hookers and cash keep on in the future. Beaver sold his soul for his "Dream job" and they know no one else will after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I am conflicted on why they want to keep him so bad. He is a decent coach if he gets that level talent. You don't beat Bama with a bad coach. However, the level of allegations that is just public is enough that a normal coach would have been fired. Of course UNM has kept a lot out of the public so far. Either they think firing Beaver is an admission of guilt and they are going to try to fight it or Beaver has threatened to bring people down with him.

    There is another possibility: The Network knows that they won't be able to get even a decent coach to come there and agree to let the Network have the impact in the program going forward. They know that to get recruits to their "beautiful campus", they have to cheat their ass off just to get them to visit. Any coach that wants a future in coaching isn't going to let the atmosphere of Sodom and Gomorrah raining down on recruits with hookers and cash keep on in the future. Beaver sold his soul for his "Dream job" and they know no one else will after this.
    You can beat Bama early on in the season with 6 turnovers and the fluke play of the season though. Also you can beat them when they have Lane Kiffin calling plays deciding not to run a future Heisman winner while he's averaging 5 ypc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTHOM View Post
    You can beat Bama early on in the season with 6 turnovers and the fluke play of the season though. Also you can beat them when they have Lane Kiffin calling plays deciding not to run a future Heisman winner while he's averaging 5 ypc.
    THIS^^ and freaking Cooper Bateman starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Either they think firing Beaver is an admission of guilt
    Hasn't the university already agreed with the vast majority of allegations in the first NOA? I believe they are contesting one or two and maybe the level of one or two but there are a bunch of allegations in there that they are not contesting in any way. Seems they have already admitted a lot of guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I am conflicted on why they want to keep him so bad. He is a decent coach if he gets that level talent. You don't beat Bama with a bad coach. However, the level of allegations that is just public is enough that a normal coach would have been fired. Of course UNM has kept a lot out of the public so far. Either they think firing Beaver is an admission of guilt and they are going to try to fight it or Beaver has threatened to bring people down with him.

    There is another possibility: The Network knows that they won't be able to get even a decent coach to come there and agree to let the Network have the impact in the program going forward. They know that to get recruits to their "beautiful campus", they have to cheat their ass off just to get them to visit. Any coach that wants a future in coaching isn't going to let the atmosphere of Sodom and Gomorrah raining down on recruits with hookers and cash keep on in the future. Beaver sold his soul for his "Dream job" and they know no one else will after this.
    Simple. He knows where the bodies are buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    Simple. He knows where the bodies are buried.


    Yeah. Freeze can do much more damage than anyone involved. There's no other explanation for him still being on the payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    Simple. He knows where the bodies are buried.
    ^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I am conflicted on why they want to keep him so bad. He is a decent coach if he gets that level talent. You don't beat Bama with a bad coach. However, the level of allegations that is just public is enough that a normal coach would have been fired. Of course UNM has kept a lot out of the public so far. Either they think firing Beaver is an admission of guilt and they are going to try to fight it or Beaver has threatened to bring people down with him.

    There is another possibility: The Network knows that they won't be able to get even a decent coach to come there and agree to let the Network have the impact in the program going forward. They know that to get recruits to their "beautiful campus", they have to cheat their ass off just to get them to visit. Any coach that wants a future in coaching isn't going to let the atmosphere of Sodom and Gomorrah raining down on recruits with hookers and cash keep on in the future. Beaver sold his soul for his "Dream job" and they know no one else will after this.
    Or, quite simply .. the network knows that Bucky will turn a 'blind eye' when needed and assist with 'hepping' them bend the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I am amazed at the lengths OM is going to in order to hopefully save Freeze. Won't really matter once the show cause comes down but for now it looks like they are willing to take a big dose of medicine in hopes of keeping him. At first I just thought they just wanted grounds to get rid of him to make sure they wouldn't have to pay him anything in a settlement but given all of the allegations the University has already agreed with in even the first NOA it seems they would already have more than enough justification for that. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a school offer up a 2 year bowl ban while still retaining the HC involved.
    I have no idea if Ole Miss is thinking of self imposing anything or not.

    However, I have reported from the start that the plan was to save Freeze, mainly by having boosters and others take the fall.

    The way things have turned lately, I figured plans would change. Doesn't look like it.

    The powers that be there have decided to be willing to kill Ole Miss to save Hugh. Never seen anything like it.

    Freeze must really be a messianic type cult leader who has them under his spell
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    I have no idea if Ole Miss is thinking of self imposing anything or not.

    However, I have reported from the start that the plan was to save Freeze, mainly by having boosters and others take the fall.

    The way things have turned lately, I figured plans would change. Doesn't look like it.

    The powers that be there have decided to be willing to kill Ole Miss to save Hugh. Never seen anything like it.

    Freeze must really be a messianic type cult leader who has them under his spell
    Agreed, but with a nice haircut.

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