Why Ole Miss should be afraid of coming NCAA sanctions

[DownwardDawg]

I think having one Mississippi school in the SEC would help us more than hurt us in the long run. Hopefully they would realign the divisions as well.

This.
Being the only SEC team in Mississippi would trump any new team the SEC brought in.

[Reason2succeed]

This.
Being the only SEC team in Mississippi would trump any new team the SEC brought in.

I agree. If Oklahoma came and gave Bama another potential loss every year that would actually be better for us. Remember when we won the West we were nowhere near undefeated. We just won a tie breaker. We should invite bedlam.

[smootness]

And if I'm living in the dream world. Drop Ole Miss. Scoot Bama and Auburn to the East. West picks up Vandy and Mizzou and then adds Oklahoma State.

Boom done. Even split geographically...just about.

Only problem is, the West would be:
LSU
Arkansas
A&M
State
Vandy
Missouri
OSU

And the East:
Bama
Florida
UGA
Auburn
Tennessee
SC
UK

I get that it's dream world, but it ain't crazy town.

[Reason2succeed]

Only problem is, the West would be:
LSU
Arkansas
A&M
State
Vandy
Missouri
OSU

And the East:
Bama
Florida
UGA
Auburn
Tennessee
SC
UK

I get that it's dream world, but it ain't crazy town.

Oklahoma State would be crazy not to accept the offer. The only two games that really move the needle for them is Bedlam versus OU and Texas. They could schedule Oklahoma as their permanent out of conference game and occasionally Texas too. But in return they get Texas A&M, Arkansas, which is a border state, and LSU. They would instantly increase their profile not to mention their cash.

The only issue is whether the SEC wants to have to deal with T. Boone Pickens but that shouldn't be an issue too much longer. He's getting old.

[Maroonandwhite]

This is fairly amusing. https://omrebelnation.com/a-letter-t...1d9#.vfipjtgy0

[smootness]

Oklahoma State would be crazy not to accept the offer. The only two games that really move the needle for them is Bedlam versus OU and Texas. They could schedule Oklahoma as their permanent out of conference game and occasionally Texas too. But in return they get Texas A&M, Arkansas, which is a border state, and LSU. They would instantly increase their profile not to mention their cash.

The only issue is whether the SEC wants to have to deal with T. Boone Pickens but that shouldn't be an issue too much longer. He's getting old.

Of course Oklahoma State would be open to it. I'm saying that from a competitive balance standpoint, there's no way the conference would ever do that. 5 of the top 6 historical programs in the conference would be in the East.

[Dawgology]

This is fairly amusing. https://omrebelnation.com/a-letter-t...1d9#.vfipjtgy0

Those dumbasses just can't stop. I really wish they would be removed from the SEC. they are an unprofessional embarrassment.

[Reason2succeed]

Of course Oklahoma State would be open to it. I'm saying that from a competitive balance standpoint, there's no way the conference would ever do that. 5 of the top 6 historical programs in the conference would be in the East.

Well yeah! That's because 3 of the 7 teams in your West scenario are new to the conference. However Missouri does bring their two SEC East titles.

The East has been down so I don't see too much issue. The power simply shifts from the West to the East because of the dominance of Bama.

[smootness]

Well yeah! That's because 3 of the 7 teams in your West scenario are new to the conference. However Missouri does bring their two SEC East titles.

The East has been down so I don't see too much issue. The power simply shifts from the West to the East because of the dominance of Bama.

You're thinking too much about the last 8 or so years. The East was the power in the 90s. It shifts. You can't put that many historical powers in one division or you will permanently tilt the conference.

Bama >> LSU
Florida >> A&M
UGA >> Arkansas
Auburn >> Oklahoma St
Tennessee > Missouri
South Carolina = State
UK > Vandy

[WSOPdawg]

This is fairly amusing. https://omrebelnation.com/a-letter-t...1d9#.vfipjtgy0

This is why these Cheats need to be penalized fairly soon, because they're bound to eventually find a loophole to exploit and wiggle off the hook.

The 1st NOA needs to be penalized and then move forward to address the 2nd NOA. Amending or adding an addendum to the 1st NOA may be a big mistake if the NCAA chooses to go that route.

[smootness]

"Here’s the question you will have to answer in front of a judge one day:
Would the players who received these impermissible benefits have needed or wanted these impermissible benefits if they hadn’t been forbidden from getting the money they deserved at the time these things happened?"

Um, yes.

That was easy.

[MedDawg]

Oklahoma State would be crazy not to accept the offer. The only two games that really move the needle for them is Bedlam versus OU and Texas. They could schedule Oklahoma as their permanent out of conference game and occasionally Texas too. But in return they get Texas A&M, Arkansas, which is a border state, and LSU. They would instantly increase their profile not to mention their cash.

The only issue is whether the SEC wants to have to deal with T. Boone Pickens but that shouldn't be an issue too much longer. He's getting old.

Oklahoma State wouldn't think twice about dropping Texas off their schedule, and probably wouldn't mind dropping Oklahoma. Just like A&M didn't care about dropping Texas and Oklahoma.

If OM left the SEC we wouldn't play them anymore either. It wouldn't be like Florida playing out of conference Florida State every year, it would be like how Florida stopped playing Miami and we stopped playing Southern Miss. Continuing to play OM would just give them a chance to beat us and help their program. Of course, then the Mississippi Legislature would step in and try to force us to play OM.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is fairly amusing. https://omrebelnation.com/a-letter-t...1d9#.vfipjtgy0

I'm sure that will help their case. Perhaps they need to hire some protesters in Indianapolis.

[1bigdawg]

You're thinking too much about the last 8 or so years. The East was the power in the 90s. It shifts. You can't put that many historical powers in one division or you will permanently tilt the conference.

Bama >> LSU
Florida >> A&M
UGA >> Arkansas
Auburn >> Oklahoma St
Tennessee > Missouri
South Carolina = State
UK > Vandy

Substitute U Oklahoma for OSU and it looks different

Bama >> LSU
Oklahoma >> Florida
A&M = Georgia
Auburn > Arkansas
Tennessee > Missouri
South Carolina = State
UK > Vandy

Still not balanced, but MUCH closer.

[smootness]

Substitute U Oklahoma for OSU and it looks different

Bama >> LSU
Oklahoma >> Florida
A&M = Georgia
Auburn > Arkansas
Tennessee > Missouri
South Carolina = State
UK > Vandy

Still not balanced, but MUCH closer.

You think Oklahoma is clearly better than Florida as a program? What the? That is at worst equal. And UGA has a better program than A&M.

[blacklistedbully]

"Here’s the question you will have to answer in front of a judge one day:
Would the players who received these impermissible benefits have needed or wanted these impermissible benefits if they hadn’t been forbidden from getting the money they deserved at the time these things happened?"

Um, yes.

That was easy.

"I’m sure you’ll have a “yeah, but…” answer to this,"

Should have said, "I’m sure you’ll have a “I'd have to say, yeah, but…” answer to this,"

[Dawgology]

Actually: (stats as of 2015)

Alabama — 864-299-42, .734 winning percentage; Bowls: 35-24-3, .589
Arkansas — 660-452-37, .591; Bowls: 14-23-3, .388
Auburn — 708-411-43, .628; Bowls: 22-14-2, .605
Florida — 664-397-37, .622; Bowls: 21-20, .512
Georgia — 751-387-50, .653; Bowls: 28-18-3, .602
Kentucky — 462-530-36, .467; 8-7, .533
LSU — 731-388-47, .647; Bowls: 23-22-1, .511
Mississippi State — 540-528-37, .505; Bowls: 10-8, .556
Missouri — 605-505-50, .543; Bowls: 15-16, .484
Ole Miss — 615-482-34, .559; 23-13, .639
South Carolina — 550-520-41, .514; Bowls: 8-12, .400
Tennessee — 811–367–53 .688; 26-24, .520
Texas A&M — 687-448-44, .601; 17-19, .472
Vanderbilt — 523-568-43, .480; Bowls: 4-2-1, .643

[Dawgology]

And OSU has a .517 win percentage (approximately) and is 16-10 in bowl games

[Dawgology]

Oklahoma: .721 with 28-20 in bowl games.

They would definitely balance the divisions better than OSU. Lets fix the SEC!