Why Ole Miss should be afraid of coming NCAA sanctions

[Tbonewannabe]

What would a DP do financially to UNM? It isn't like they wouldn't have to pay on their debt while not having games. I would also imagine the SEC would not pay them for the SEC network while they weren't contributing.

[msbulldog]

What would a DP do financially to UNM? It isn't like they wouldn't have to pay on their debt while not having games. I would also imagine the SEC would not pay them for the SEC network while they weren't contributing.

SEC payout are suspended during probationary period, the school on probation receives 50% of the money at the end of the probation.

[Tbonewannabe]

SEC payout are suspended during probationary period, the school on probation receives 50% of the money at the end of the probation.

I was referring to if they received the death penalty and didn't have a team. I doubt the SEC would pay them 50% for not fielding a football team. They might but they also could get kicked out of the SEC.

[maroonmania]

I think its all just complete guesswork until a second NOA's existence and content are publicly verified. They sure aren't getting the DP off of what was in the first NOA. It would carry a stinging probation but would get them nowhere near the DP.

[Dawgology]

I think its all just complete guesswork until a second NOA's existence and content are publicly verified. They sure aren't getting the DP off of what was in the first NOA. It would carry a stinging probation but would get them nowhere near the DP.

Except that Steve (who has been correct on this the entire time) has said a 2nd NOA is happening.

[maroonmania]

Except that Steve (who has been correct on this the entire time) has said a 2nd NOA is happening.

Yes, but as much as I believe Steve is getting good information, not even he knows specifically what's in it even if we go ahead and make the assumption they are at least getting one.

[lamont]

Except that Steve (who has been correct on this the entire time) has said a 2nd NOA is happening.

Elitedawgs stated this also

[bulldog2488]

Except that Steve (who has been correct on this the entire time) has said a 2nd NOA is happening.

This is not to "nit-pick" but I think I've heard Steve say that there actually wouldn't be a 2nd NOA (which would imply a second investigation), but what would happen is that they would get an amended NOA because the investigation hasn't ended.

MODs you can delete my post! I just saw Jarius' post above.

[Really Clark?]

By NCAA by-laws you have to be a repeat offender for the death penalty to be on the table under normal major violations. Until we see a NOA that lists violations occurring after OCT 2016, then the COI will not consider the death penalty. The only time it has been discussed or used without the repeat offender tag is when major violations are mixed with a major scandal. Penn St, Baylor, Western Kentucky actually self imposed the death penalty in their case because it was so egregious.

Morehouse College was a different type of case as the coaches knowingly brought professional soccer players on the team and hide their identities and their was no institutional control, going as far as some not even realizing they had a soccer program to even check with their compliance. They disbanded soccer before the 2 year death penalty was handed out.

[WSOPdawg]

By NCAA by-laws you have to be a repeat offender for the death penalty to be on the table under normal major violations. Until we see a NOA that lists violations occurring after OCT 2016, then the COI will not consider the death penalty. The only time it has been discussed or used without the repeat offender tag is when major violations are mixed with a major scandal. Penn St, Baylor, Western Kentucky actually self imposed the death penalty in their case because it was so egregious.

Morehouse College was a different type of case as the coaches knowingly brought professional soccer players on the team and hide their identities and their was no institutional control, going as far as some not even realizing they had a soccer program to even check with their compliance. They disbanded soccer before the 2 year death penalty was handed out.

That's why Women's Basketball and Men's Track being placed on probation in late October, 2016, is so important, especially if the Network was caught in November/December, 2016, during the current recruiting cycle doing business as usual. This would arguably trigger the Repeat Offender status.

From above "Baylor was eligible for the "death penalty" since its men's tennis program was on probation for major violations;"

[Really Clark?]

That's why Women's Basketball and Men's Track being placed on probation in late October, 2016, is so important, especially if the Network was caught in November/December, 2016, during the current recruiting cycle doing business as usual. This would arguably trigger the Repeat Offender status.

From above "Baylor was eligible for the "death penalty" since its men's tennis program was on probation for major violations;"

That's correct. But if the rumors that the 2nd NOA has been received, then I have a hard time seeing anything after Oct '16 making its way on that one. If there is another NOA or if they have not finished with the second one, then maybe we have something. Until we see that second NOA though, it's all speculation. Many have heard of things going on this cycle still, just need to see it in the NOA

[TrapGame]

A believe a 2 year DP with a resident watchdog/supervisor from the NCAA is very plausible. Especially if the rumors are true about getting caught for a third time in November after the NCAA started its initial investigation.

[Jarius]

As stated by Steve last week, a second NOA is not coming. It is an addendum to the first NOA. A second NOA would mean 2 different "trials" so to speak and that is not happening. He said that the addendum should come any day now and the punishment should be known by the start of football season. He also said that anyone who thinks a bowl ban isn't coming is an idiot.

[GTHOM]

I would be surprised if they got the death penalty. Not that they are not deserving but the NCAA has said that they would likely never give it again. In my opinion they are going to hit OM hard because they can make an example out of them and also to show everyone they still mean business, been a lot of talk about how bad they screwed their last investigations and the whole Penn St. deal up

[Saltydog]

changed his mind after his visit to UM only to return to Saban and beg for his spot back.......It was rumored that Saban told him to confess to the NCAA before he took him back........

[32 Dive]

In regards to the NCAA:

1) They don't necessarily follow precedent.

2) You can almost expect the unexpected.

[blacklistedbully]

We DO NOT want UNM to get the death penalty unless we could replace them on our schedule with Vanderbilt. We DO NOT want UNM kicked out of the SEC, because the league would replace them with a better team.

We already have enough killer games on our schedule. We don't want to lose the one opposing team in our division that mostly sucks ass. We especially don't prefer that over a UNM forced to play more by the rules and crippled by sanctions for years.

[Liverpooldawg]

We DO NOT want UNM to get the death penalty unless we could replace them on our schedule with Vanderbilt. We DO NOT want UNM kicked out of the SEC, because the league would replace them with a better team.

We already have enough killer games on our schedule. We don't want to lose the one opposing team in our division that mostly sucks ass. WE especially don't prefer that over a UNM forced to play more by the rules and crippled by sanctions for years.

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[Dawgology]

We DO NOT want UNM to get the death penalty unless we could replace them on our schedule with Vanderbilt. We DO NOT want UNM kicked out of the SEC, because the league would replace them with a better team.

We already have enough killer games on our schedule. We don't want to lose the one opposing team in our division that mostly sucks ass. WE especially don't prefer that over a UNM forced to play more by the rules and crippled by sanctions for years.

I think having one Mississippi school in the SEC would help us more than hurt us in the long run. Hopefully they would realign the divisions as well.

[DownwardDawg]

I think having one Mississippi school in the SEC would help us more than hurt us in the long run. Hopefully they would realign the divisions as well.

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Being the only SEC team in Mississippi would trump any new team the SEC brought in.