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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Hahaha. You are literally freaking out that Arkansas got an 87 overall CB in Bishop because he?s so good and was committed to us. But we get an 85 overall CB from the state of MS that was previously committed to us and now the entire football program is in panic mode because it?s definitely a downgrade.
This schtick you?ve gone on the past week has to be commemorated somehow. It?s been hilarious to watch the melt. I?m glad it?s not me or I would be pissed off at myself by now. I would be really interested to see how your comments would go over if you had to say them straight to Joe Mo?s face. You know, tell him how awful he?s doing that he?s held together a Top 30 recruiting class.
You're drinking the kool aid to the max
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Originally Posted by
vv83
You're drinking the kool aid to the max
I'm not drinking anything. I'm just being an objective observer of what's happened so far. And so far Moorhead kept together a class that everyone said wouldn't be kept together. So we missed on a few OL. So Arkansas took a few of our guys. I literally don't care. This class, on paper, got us the best group of skill position high schoolers we've signed in our history. That can't be questioned.
We are going to miss on some. And guess what. If you didn't expect that you are naive. We still think we should get every 3 star or low end 4 star we go after because we are so awesome. Well guess what. Every other school has that same mentality and things they can sell. We missed on OL this go around. That's not new. But if you can't tell Moorhead is doing things differently you just don't get it or don't follow on social media, which quite a few on here don't do.
So no I'm not drinking kool aid. I'm just watching what we are doing differently. And it's a lot.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I'm not drinking anything. I'm just being an objective observer of what's happened so far. And so far Moorhead kept together a class that everyone said wouldn't be kept together. So we missed on a few OL. So Arkansas took a few of our guys. I literally don't care. This class, on paper, got us the best group of skill position high schoolers we've signed in our history. That can't be questioned.
We are going to miss on some. And guess what. If you didn't expect that you are naive. We still think we should get every 3 star or low end 4 star we go after because we are so awesome. Well guess what. Every other school has that same mentality and things they can sell. We missed on OL this go around. That's not new. But if you can't tell Moorhead is doing things differently you just don't get it or don't follow on social media, which quite a few on here don't do.
So no I'm not drinking kool aid. I'm just watching what we are doing differently. And it's a lot.
Your don't care?!? As long as we sign 4* WRs you're A-ok? Go be an OM fan that's all you care about. There are 22 starters buddy, poor play from any one of them can cost you a close game. We need depth everywhere, and since some high rated guys don't pan out you can't just ignore the potential or lack thereof of the bottom of a class.
Seriously, forget about this specific class. What you just said has nothing to do with the specifics of how good/bad we are doing; you just said you LITERALLY DON'T CARE if we miss on OL, CB, and S targets just because the offensive skill players are great. Name me one top 10 team that "literally doesn't care" about the last 8 spots in a class, and I'll show you 4 CFP teams that do and but their ass till signing day is over to fill every spot with the best they can.
You are doing mental gymnastics to say OL and secondary recruiting doesn't matter, and I'm concerned for your health if you honestly think you're objective and rational about recruiting. Ari, IYOK, Steve, and literally every coach in the nation will tell you the bottom of a class and every single position matter.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I'm not drinking anything. I'm just being an objective observer of what's happened so far. And so far Moorhead kept together a class that everyone said wouldn't be kept together. So we missed on a few OL. So Arkansas took a few of our guys. I literally don't care. This class, on paper, got us the best group of skill position high schoolers we've signed in our history. That can't be questioned.
We are going to miss on some. And guess what. If you didn't expect that you are naive. We still think we should get every 3 star or low end 4 star we go after because we are so awesome. Well guess what. Every other school has that same mentality and things they can sell. We missed on OL this go around. That's not new. But if you can't tell Moorhead is doing things differently you just don't get it or don't follow on social media, which quite a few on here don't do.
So no I'm not drinking kool aid. I'm just watching what we are doing differently. And it's a lot.
Some on here don't understand being objective or realisitic. I have about decided those who continually criticize are posting controversial comments just to push somebody's button and get an argument started. Some people thrive on that sort of thing.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I'm not drinking anything. I'm just being an objective observer of what's happened so far. And so far Moorhead kept together a class that everyone said wouldn't be kept together. So we missed on a few OL. So Arkansas took a few of our guys. I literally don't care. This class, on paper, got us the best group of skill position high schoolers we've signed in our history. That can't be questioned.
We are going to miss on some. And guess what. If you didn't expect that you are naive. We still think we should get every 3 star or low end 4 star we go after because we are so awesome. Well guess what. Every other school has that same mentality and things they can sell. We missed on OL this go around. That's not new. But if you can't tell Moorhead is doing things differently you just don't get it or don't follow on social media, which quite a few on here don't do.
So no I'm not drinking kool aid. I'm just watching what we are doing differently. And it's a lot.
Well you just lost all credibility
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I'm not drinking anything. I'm just being an objective observer of what's happened so far. And so far Moorhead kept together a class that everyone said wouldn't be kept together. So we missed on a few OL. So Arkansas took a few of our guys. I literally don't care. This class, on paper, got us the best group of skill position high schoolers we've signed in our history. That can't be questioned.
We are going to miss on some. And guess what. If you didn't expect that you are naive. We still think we should get every 3 star or low end 4 star we go after because we are so awesome. Well guess what. Every other school has that same mentality and things they can sell. We missed on OL this go around. That's not new. But if you can't tell Moorhead is doing things differently you just don't get it or don't follow on social media, which quite a few on here don't do.
So no I'm not drinking kool aid. I'm just watching what we are doing differently. And it's a lot.
Good post!
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think this is the panic button. Things are falling apart, so make dang sure we land Lovett
7 do you ever see the good? Lol
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
7 do you ever see the good? Lol
Yes. When I do, I praise too. Go back a few pages and read about Reed. There was a consensus he was not an sec guy. Now though, he will be a big get. I hope he is. Maybe he turns out to be another tavese Calhoun... think we took him to get quay Evans
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Hahaha. You are literally freaking out that Arkansas got an 87 overall CB in Bishop because he’s so good and was committed to us. But we get an 85 overall CB from the state of MS and we are in panic mode because it’s definitely a downgrade.
This schtick you’ve gone on the past week has to be commemorated somehow. It’s been hilarious to watch the melt. I’m glad it’s not me or I would be pissed off at myself by now.
Fine. You think bishop and reed are equal. I will not argue
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Fine. You think bishop and reed are equal. I will not argue
That’s not the point at all. The point is that you are so convinced they aren’t equal when we have proven time and again that for the majority of these kids in the 84-89 range are that they are so variable that’s it’s dumb to say one is absolutely better than the other.
I just don’t get the melt man. You do your thing. But just know that it looks awful that you think that guys that are 2 points difference in some humanized subjective ranking system is the be all end all for this class.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Yes. When I do, I praise too. Go back a few pages and read about Reed. There was a consensus he was not an sec guy. Now though, he will be a big get. I hope he is. Maybe he turns out to be another tavese Calhoun... think we took him to get quay Evans
Hasn?t been much praise coming from ol 7 lately. I understand angst but dang y?all got to give the man a little more time. At least give him one full recruirung cycle before you decree him the worst recruiter in cfb history
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Hasn?t been much praise coming from ol 7 lately. I understand angst but dang y?all got to give the man a little more time. At least give him one full recruirung cycle before you decree him the worst recruiter in cfb history
Completely agree, but it has been very rough since the early signing period. Borderline disaster. The new staff really messed up by not staying on Hall and Williams.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Hasn?t been much praise coming from ol 7 lately. I understand angst but dang y?all got to give the man a little more time. At least give him one full recruirung cycle before you decree him the worst recruiter in cfb history
I am not saying fire him or anything even close to that. To make our recruiting out post early signing day as anything but a huge fail is ridiculous though. I expect much better next cycle... better be anyway
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Completely agree, but it has been very rough since the early signing period. Borderline disaster. The new staff really messed up by not staying on Hall and Williams.
Oh i wished we were gonna close stronger too. Also part of the angst is from danny boy leaving us thin at ol and cb. If he had added some good depth the last couple years the misses wouldn?t hurt so bad. I just honestly believe our recruiting is gonna take an uptick with Joe and if it doesn?t we will have a new coach in 3 years. I guess I?ve just learned over time that things are never as bad or as good as they seem. I try to keep balance even though it?s difficult what being a Dawg fan for life and all
Lol
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Oh i wished we were gonna close stronger too. Also part of the angst is from danny boy leaving us thin at ol and cb. If he had added some good depth the last couple years the misses wouldn?t hurt so bad. I just honestly believe our recruiting is gonna take an uptick with Joe and if it doesn?t we will have a new coach in 3 years. I guess I?ve just learned over time that things are never as bad or as good as they seem. I try to keep balance even though it?s difficult what being a Dawg fan for life and all
Lol
Long term, I'm not overly concerned...yet. Short Term, it's really bad and it's ok to say so. 2 years in a row of awful corner and Oline recruiting. I was really hoping Eddie Smith and Sampson could save the day.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I am not saying fire him or anything even close to that. To make our recruiting out post early signing day as anything but a huge fail is ridiculous though. I expect much better next cycle... better be anyway
I agree if 19 class is bad then there?s a problem but I?m confident it will be better than anything dan ever did.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I am not saying fire him or anything even close to that. To make our recruiting out post early signing day as anything but a huge fail is ridiculous though. I expect much better next cycle... better be anyway
It?s not a fail at all, yet. Geez
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
It?s not a fail at all, yet. Geez
Oh yeah- we have another weekend of official visits.
The melting was fun for those that did though.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Long term, I'm not overly concerned...yet. Short Term, it's really bad and it's ok to say so. 2 years in a row of awful corner and Oline recruiting. I was really hoping Eddie Smith and Sampson could save the day.
Yep the last 2 years in those position groups has hurt us. The new staff has ground to make up in this next class because of it
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Oh yeah- we have another weekend of official visits.
The melting was fun for those that did though.
I will feel a little better if we can get brule and Robinson. Not too confident in either though
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