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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    I don't know why 247 has to have that composite rating. Just use their own. I don't think ESPN ever has been able to properly or correctly evaluate players and the Rivals bunch is pretty much off and on.
    Bingo! Agree with everything you said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostondawg View Post
    From Lovett on twitter. Anyone who says he's an OM lock is a fool.


    Did that guy seriously put CJ Johnson in the same sentence with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons? LOL. Two are in the NFL. One is hanging out with Lane Kiffen or beating the bush on the Mississippi JUCO circuit.

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    Not understanding the Lovett tweet. Thought tsun had him locked down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Did that guy seriously put CJ Johnson in the same sentence with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons? LOL. Two are in the NFL. One is hanging out with Lane Kiffen or beating the bush on the Mississippi JUCO circuit.
    Speaking of CJ Johnson have you seen pics of him lately. He looks bad as in ill.

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    Looking at bama recruiting page, looks like they currently have 2 CB commits. They have 3 5-Star guys, a high 4-star, and smith on prospect list. According to CBs, they are not the favorite for any of them. What you guys say is the % smith gets an Alabama offer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Looking at bama recruiting page, looks like they currently have 2 CB commits. They have 3 5-Star guys, a high 4-star, and smith on prospect list. According to CBs, they are not the favorite for any of them. What you guys say is the % smith gets an Alabama offer?
    According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.
    It’s absurd that Bama can do this in recruiting.

    When one team has this type of power and control over recruiting, the rest of us are literally just playing for second place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.
    And everybody here would do the same thing if you were in his situation, if you were smart.

    This isnt a nice business no need to talk to the kid after signing day. Dont be a hugh freeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Speaking of CJ Johnson have you seen pics of him lately. He looks bad as in ill.
    No he's fine. He's just a normal weight & not trying to pack all that weight on to play DE in the SEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    No he's fine. He's just a normal weight & not trying to pack all that weight on to play DE in the SEC.
    Cool. You can tell he's lost weight after playing. I'm accustomed to that. He looks funny
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-27-2018 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    And everybody here would do the same thing if you were in his situation, if you were smart.

    This isnt a nice business no need to talk to the kid after signing day. Dont be a hugh freeze
    I know how recruiting goes. Take your sermon elsewhere Sherlock. I was referring to if they got the commits they wanted today Saban would totally ignore this kid with no explanation at all after stringing him along.
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-27-2018 at 10:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Figures the 2 worst recruiting sights screwing it up.
    ESPN and Rivals still have a recruit listed that hasn't been in the class in months. ESPN is the worst though with their top MS rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    It’s absurd that Bama can do this in recruiting.

    When one team has this type of power and control over recruiting, the rest of us are literally just playing for second place.
    You've got to give Saban credit. Apparently he doesn't cheat-at least nobody says he does or caught him at it. Like he told Mal Moore when he hired him, "you may not have hired the best football coach, but nobody will beat me recruiting." He apparently works his tail off recruiting. Alabama wasn't nearly this successful before Saban arrived on the scene. I knew we were in trouble when he was hired. It's all Rich Rodriquez fault for not taking the job when they offered it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    I know how recruiting goes. Take your sermon elsewhere Sherlock. I was referring to if they got the commits they wanted today Saban would totally ignore this kid with no explanation at all after stringing him along.
    Fight me then

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    You've got to give Saban credit. Apparently he doesn't cheat-at least nobody says he does or caught him at it. Like he told Mal Moore when he hired him, "you may not have hired the best football coach, but nobody will beat me recruiting." He apparently works his tail off recruiting. Alabama wasn't nearly this successful before Saban arrived on the scene. I knew we were in trouble when he was hired. It's all Rich Rodriquez fault for not taking the job when they offered it to him.
    I’ve given him so much credit that my cup runneth empty of any more credit to give

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    He does what it takes to get elite players like everyone else. I think there was something on Bleacher Report it SDS or something showing recruits over the past 5 years or so with their instagram pics of their new rides.

    He did what he needed to do to get the talent back up and then when he won you had the rings to help so you played the game but didn?t go overboard.

    But to start he knew you win big mostly by having better players than your opponent.

    OM tried basically the same strategy but just went a little too far with it. If you can do it and not get caught the plan works.

    You never know how things would have worked out but what if we had gotten Cam or enticed AJ to stay around and there were probably a few other impact guys we might have had a shot over the years. Mullen was just conservative with it and for the most part we?ve still been pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    He does what it takes to get elite players like everyone else. I think there was something on Bleacher Report it SDS or something showing recruits over the past 5 years or so with their instagram pics of their new rides.

    He did what he needed to do to get the talent back up and then when he won you had the rings to help so you played the game but didn?t go overboard.

    But to start he knew you win big mostly by having better players than your opponent.

    OM tried basically the same strategy but just went a little too far with it. If you can do it and not get caught the plan works.

    You never know how things would have worked out but what if we had gotten Cam or enticed AJ to stay around and there were probably a few other impact guys we might have had a shot over the years. Mullen was just conservative with it and for the most part we?ve still been pretty good.
    I think having AJ would have made an astronomical difference to our team. Would have opened us up a lot more and changed our effectiveness in the pass game entirely.

    But in the end, it all comes down to secondary play. That’s the reason we lose to big teams. Until we are able to recruit the back end of our defense better, we will remain a max 8-10 win team. We have recruited the front 7 about as well as could be expected. But ultimately we lose because we can’t stop teams consistently through the air. You can point to numerous times in our 4 losses where our secondary lost the big battles.

    Offense is usually not going to be our issue. We’ve proven that even with the worst WR core in the conference that we can go out and win 9 games in a year where we played the two teams in the national title game. But if we are truly going to be elite, we have to add to what we are doing in recruiting by going all in to shore up our secondary.

    That’s why I feel Eddie Smith is potentially the most important recruit in this class.
    Last edited by MetEdDawg; 01-27-2018 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Fight me then
    Anytime

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Anytime
    Grow up**

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    I think having AJ would have made an astronomical difference to our team. Would have opened us up a lot more and changed our effectiveness in the pass game entirely.

    But in the end, it all comes down to secondary play. That’s the reason we lose to big teams. Until we are able to recruit the back end of our defense better, we will remain a max 8-10 win team. We have recruited the front 7 about as well as could be expected. But ultimately we lose because we can’t stop teams consistently through the air. You can point to numerous times in our 4 losses where our secondary lost the big battles.

    Offense is usually not going to be our issue. We’ve proven that even with the worst WR core in the conference that we can go out and win 9 games in a year where we played the two teams in the national title game. But if we are truly going to be elite, we have to add to what we are doing in recruiting by going all in to shore up our secondary.

    That’s why I feel Eddie Smith is potentially the most important recruit in this class.
    AJ, Cam, and Jaylen Smith all would have been huge for us this year. Lashley, Charles, and Womack would have helped our offensive line as well. We've had way too many misses on the offensive side of the ball.

    Our problem is we can't get over the hump against elite SEC teams. I think a lot of it is because when we play those teams we lack explosiveness on the offensive side in terms of playmakers. We were no threat to stretch Alabama vertically. Had we done that we would have run the ball even better than we did against them.

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