Programs with top facilities as ranked by elite football recruits

[BB30]

Spot on. Yea, yea, yea bar scene isn't everything...blah blah blah. Believe it or not college kids tend to enjoy going out. Me personally, I loved the Cotton District and still do but it does not compare to the majority of the other SEC schools night life. Yea these kids are here to play football but they want to enjoy life outside of football as well. And if we are honest there really is not anything to do in Starkville outside of going out to the bars. The movie theater is sub par and the bowling alley closed for those that want to do something different. T Town has a lot and if there is something else you are looking for you have Birmingham right down the road.

[BB30]

Boy thats a punch in the gut to that weakass excuse

According to you our history didn't start until 91 and we have sucked the majority of the years since 91 except for 2 year under Jackie in a down west and a couple of years under Dan. I am just confused, one minute you say we will just have to live with 6-8 win seasons and the next you are saying we should be competing for championships? Do you change your narrative just to draw clicks, views, and comments or do you flip flop from day to day? I think we can all agree we should be recruiting better and that Mullen needs to step that up a notch. The guy is young, he has time to continue to learn. If we have another 5 win regular season it may be time to start thinking about making a change but Dan will never be fired if he wins 6-8 games with a 9-10 win season sprinkled in every 3-4 years. Some of you may not like it but yall are looking for instant gratification and have a we must win the SEC now mentality. If I am not mistaken that is the same mentality you give the "snowflakes" hell for.

Yall have seen what going with the win at all costs now mentality has gotten that school to the north and I personally don't want to see us go through another decade of Croom/end of jackie debacles.

[Political Hack]

Bears aren't #1? SDS with an article to set things straight immediately.

Beautiful campus and an indoor facility that's caused more injuries than Mike Ditka.

[Bothrops]

Spot on. Yea, yea, yea bar scene isn't everything...blah blah blah. Believe it or not college kids tend to enjoy going out. Me personally, I loved the Cotton District and still do but it does not compare to the majority of the other SEC schools night life. Yea these kids are here to play football but they want to enjoy life outside of football as well. And if we are honest there really is not anything to do in Starkville outside of going out to the bars. The movie theater is sub par and the bowling alley closed for those that want to do something different. T Town has a lot and if there is something else you are looking for you have Birmingham right down the road.

But what are football players going to do in Oxford, or Auburn, besides those things?

[Dawg61]

But their baseball and basketball crootin would be just fine?

Do I really have to explain to you how we can recruit at an elite level for baseball and basketball but we can't for football? I know you know the answers here so why are you playing dumb

[Jarius]

Spot on. Yea, yea, yea bar scene isn't everything...blah blah blah. Believe it or not college kids tend to enjoy going out. Me personally, I loved the Cotton District and still do but it does not compare to the majority of the other SEC schools night life. Yea these kids are here to play football but they want to enjoy life outside of football as well. And if we are honest there really is not anything to do in Starkville outside of going out to the bars. The movie theater is sub par and the bowling alley closed for those that want to do something different. T Town has a lot and if there is something else you are looking for you have Birmingham right down the road.

I guess our baseball, basketball (girls and boys), track, softball, tennis, and golf athletes just don't give a shit about going out.

[BB30]

But what are football players going to do in Oxford, or Auburn, besides those things?

Well Ole Miss is about to get hammered for cheating so I don't think that is a shining example...see their class this year. And Auburn has a great bar/party scene. Auburn and Starkville aren't even in the same world when it comes to the bar scene. Outside of the bar scene there probably isn't a huge difference in Auburn and Starkville. Auburn also has Atlanta only an hour and 20 minutes away. They sit much closer to fertile recruiting grounds then we do.

[BB30]

I guess our baseball, basketball (girls and boys), track, softball, tennis, and golf athletes just don't give a shit about going out.

They most certainly do. Comparing our football program to our baseball program is just stupid. If you can't see why it would be an easier sell to come play baseball here then I can't help you. Basketball gets a push from Adidas. On that list the only thing I can't give you a reason as to why they do so much better is girls basketball. The others you listed we don't recruit in the top 15-20 year in and year out so you are just helping the point that we don't recruit well.

Our softball team went 26-31 last year btw so they are apparently not that good.
Our track team had a couple of individuals that were good but we sucked as a whole.
our tennis team finished 18-9 7-5 in the SEC so pretty decent but not great.

[Jarius]

They most certainly do. Comparing our football program to our baseball program is just stupid. If you can't see why it would be an easier sell to come play baseball here then I can't help you. Basketball gets a push from Adidas. On that list the only thing I can't give you a reason as to why they do so much better is girls basketball. The others you listed we don't recruit in the top 15-20 year in and year out so you are just helping the point that we don't recruit well.

You may want to go check and see how we are doing in those sports you think we aren't recruiting well nationally in.

[BB30]

If you can't see that we aren't losing football recruits because of the city of Starkville I don't know what to tell you except that you have your head up your ass. It's not a deal breaker for any other sport, and it wouldn't be for football if we had a decent recruiter. We recruit well in track and tennis. What are you even talking about? Are you just lying because you are too hard headed to change your stance? I won't respond again because I'm not going to argue with someone just making shit up.

Please post links to where we are recruiting top 15-20 in track and tennis? And were you just making up facts and lying to yourself about our softball and the other sports you listed? Everyone cherry picks and if you don't think Starkville plays a role in recruiting then you sir apparently have your head up your a**. I have said repeatedly that Dan and co need to do a better job recruiting but when people like you compare State to Bama, LSU and the rest of the major programs in the SEC and try and reason that we should be recruiting on their level then you again have your head up your a**.

I pulled facts in the post that you are referencing from the State website btw. So either we are recruiting well in those sports you are talking about and our coaches aren't doing their jobs or we aren't recruiting all that great.

[Jarius]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mzb7t_2nLrnJTQ

MSU Softball just landed the #4 recruiting class in the country.

[Jarius]

Please post links to where we are recruiting top 15-20 in track and tennis? And were you just making up facts and lying to yourself about our softball and the other sports you listed? Everyone cherry picks and if you don't think Starkville plays a role in recruiting then you sir apparently have your head up your a**. I have said repeatedly that Dan and co need to do a better job recruiting but when people like you compare State to Bama, LSU and the rest of the major programs in the SEC and try and reason that we should be recruiting on their level then you again have your head up your a**.

I don't think we should be recruiting as well as them you imbecile. I think we shouldn't be losing players to teams like Louisville and losing players constantly from 5 minutes from our campus.

[Dawg61]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mzb7t_2nLrnJTQ

MSU Softball just landed the #4 recruiting class in the country.

Wow this is awesome!!

[BB30]

I don't think we should be recruiting as well as them you imbecile. I think we shouldn't be losing players to teams like Louisville and losing players constantly from 5 minutes from our campus.

I am mistaken then our softball team is recruiting well this year (has that been a year in and year out deal as stated above)if so congrats. Sorry you are so butt hurt over losing a player to L'ville. Hopefully our softball team will learn to win some games then... Still stand by the fact that recruiting football players is completely different from the other sports you listed and that Starkville plays a role in some of our recruiting mishaps. Man, I can't believe a player from the GTR wouldn't want to leave the area and play somewhere else. That is just shocking. Imbecile nice touch... classy, I am impressed by your ability to have a civil debate. Have a terrific day melting over losing an 18 year old to another school.

[Jarius]

Dudley is in his sixteenth season and his 6th season serving as head coach. He has coached 158 All-Americans, 4 NCAA champions, 10 SEC champions, 148 All-SEC academic honor roll athletes, several top 10 finishes in SEC indoor and outdoor championships for men and women teams, and several top 15 finishes in the NCAA championships for the men and women.

There's a clip from our track coach's resume. Doubt he did that with 2 star grinders. I'll let you look up track and field recruiting rankings, cause I don't think they exist.

[Jarius]

MSU Men's tennis was ranked in the top 15 nationally 3 years straight from 2012-2014. I'm not gonna continue to dig into sports that I don't care about, but it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to us not recruiting well in other sports.

[smootness]

We have done a very good job of hiring coaches and upgrading facilities throughout the athletic department, there's no doubt about that.

There's also no doubt that football is a different animal.

[BB30]

MSU Men's tennis was ranked in the top 15 nationally 3 years straight from 2012-2014. I'm not gonna continue to dig into sports that I don't care about, but it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to us not recruiting well in other sports.

Wow, Tennis haha yea we have a good team full of international students. Isn't relevant comparing any of the above sports mentioned outside of the big three has no value added to the discussion. We recruit well in baseball due to history of success, Ron Polk and putting guys in the best position to make it at the next level. Also noted you are signing less guys. One or two guys can make a difference on a baseball team. Basketball all Howland and Adidas has nothing to do with whether the kid likes Starkville or not. Football you have to sign more solid players than any other sport played, you cant get away with signing 2 elite players and a bunch of sh**. Starkville plays a role in recruiting whether you want to admit it or not. I have stated several times Mullen needs to do a better job.

But please explain to me how we have been a cellar dweller in the SEC in football with every coach we have had save a few years and have NEVER recruited consistently in the top 15-20 by your standards...Have we just hired that many shitty coaches. I mean since starkville is a college kids dream and all it has to come down strictly to the coaches I guess.

[BulldogBear]

I'm looking forward to going out there and checking it out. I have a co-worker that was gushing about Bucky's which sounds like a cross between a gigantic gas station and the best Cracker Barrel store ever on steroids.

Bucky's is a chain of gigantic gas stations/ Stuckey's that sell's everything from 100 kinds of beef jerky to deer corn. They are famous for clean bathrooms...

All I know is before you even get to Lafayette the signs start that make it sound like Bucky's is just ahead!

I've driven through it and the stench from the cow shit is 2nd only to driving past the diary farms in Norco, Ca. Also, southern New Mexico is the ugliest place on earth I've ever seen. I've never been to northern New Mexico but I understand around Santa Fe and Albuquerque is some of the most beautiful country you'll ever see.

This is correct. I lived there 20 years ago and still can't believe I've never been back.

[BulldogBear]

I'm looking forward to going out there and checking it out. I have a co-worker that was gushing about Bucky's which sounds like a cross between a gigantic gas station and the best Cracker Barrel store ever on steroids.

Bucky's is a chain of gigantic gas stations/ Stuckey's that sell's everything from 100 kinds of beef jerky to deer corn. They are famous for clean bathrooms...

I know the signs for Bucky's start before you get to Lafayette and make it sound like it's just down the road!

They most certainly do. Comparing our football program to our baseball program is just stupid. If you can't see why it would be an easier sell to come play baseball here then I can't help you. Basketball gets a push from Adidas. On that list the only thing I can't give you a reason as to why they do so much better is girls basketball. The others you listed we don't recruit in the top 15-20 year in and year out so you are just helping the point that we don't recruit well.

Our softball team went 26-31 last year btw so they are apparently not that good.
Our track team had a couple of individuals that were good but we sucked as a whole.
our tennis team finished 18-9 7-5 in the SEC so pretty decent but not great.

They are not as good yet as the much of the SEC but they are up and coming. Don't sell them short. What a lot of people don't understand how dominant the SEC is in softball. SEC dominance in baseball and football isn't even on the same map to how high of a level SEC softball is compared to 90% of the country. It's the SEC and a handful of other programs. Everything else really isn't even in the same movie. The problem is our softball program can be #10-#13 in the SEC (Vandy doesn't play) and still actually be a top 20 team talent wise some years, top 25 the rest of 'em.