Last four years

[1bigdawg]

Here is where we finished the last four years in the SEC West

2013 - Tied for 5th/6th
2014 - 2nd
2015 - Tied for 5th/6th
2016 - Tied for 5th/6th

If our coaching staff is so great at developing talent, it should be obvious that they need better talent to coach.

[bluelightstar]

Yeah, but they always pick us to finish last! Instead, we finish next to last! #HailMullen**

[SaintDawg]

Yeah, but they always pick us to finish last! Instead, we finish next to last! #HailMullen**

That's a "glass is half full" attitude. I like it.

[RougeDawg]

You bring too much common sense to the board. You will be ridiculed.

[Beaver]

You bring too much common sense to the board. You will be ridiculed.

Common sense says that MSU should finish about 5th in the West every single year. If you think about it there's no reason Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and A&M shouldn't beat us every single year in recruiting and on the field.

[HancockCountyDog]

Common sense says that MSU should finish about 5th in the West every single year. If you think about it there's no reason Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and A&M shouldn't beat us every single year in recruiting and on the field.

I have met the enemy and he is us.

[RougeDawg]

Common sense says that MSU should finish about 5th in the West every single year. If you think about it there's no reason Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and A&M shouldn't beat us every single year in recruiting and on the field.

Common sense says if you pay top 15-20 money for something you better start seeing top 15-20 results, or you make a change. Period.

[Dawg61]

Common sense says if you pay top 15-20 money for something you better start seeing top 15-20 results, or you make a change. Period.

You want to fire Dan Mullen? Holy shit.

[RougeDawg]

You want to fire Dan Mullen? Holy shit.

Please bold where I said that. I'm having a difficult time finding it.

Let me clarify since you only read what you want something to say.

Making as much as Mullen does he should be held accountable to recruit better. Period. It's apparent that he's not been held to any standard to this point. Maybe Cohen or Keenum will step in if this shit show closing continues until signing day.

[Beaver]

Common sense says if you pay top 15-20 money for something you better start seeing top 15-20 results, or you make a change. Period.

We don't pay top 15-20 money for our football program. Results in football are more than just the head coach...

[RougeDawg]

We don't pay top 15-20 money for our football program. Results in football are more than just the head coach...

So you are gonna pay Mercedes money and be happy driving an impala leaking oil. A college head football coaches responsibilities include recruiting, which may be the top responsibility of all. It's inherently clear that our top 15-20 paid head coach does not work very hard in this very important area. The most important area we need to focus if we are to ever have a legitimate chance at Atlanta outside of a NFL rookie of the year QB on your team. When we battle CUSA and AAC twamsnfor rexruits, it's not that difficult to see why we continually finish 5-7th in the west.

Until Dan gets off his ass and starts recruiting st a $4.5 mil level we will stay where we are in the SEC pecking order while he collects a check.

[maroonmania]

To win in the SEC you have to have a coach that is very good in all aspects of his job, especially at a school like MSU that has a few more disadvantages than the top SEC power programs. Mullen is a good coach but has too many flaws to ever get us routinely toward the top of the SEC or SEC West. Recruiting is his biggest one which is aided by keeping assistants on the staff that not good recruiters along with the inability to maintain a good defensive staff with some continuity. Mullen will typically get us to minor bowl games with the exception at rare times of exceeding expectations and going to a nice bowl game OR missing a bowl game altogether (which is what would normally happen after a year like this year). Mullen is what he is at this point so you are either good with that or you aren't.

[AROB44]

I think he should be fired immediately. I am sure we can get a top notch coach to come to MSU based on what I read on message boards.********

[lamont]

Damn you and your facts!!!! Agendaaaaaaaaa

[Ari Gold]

Finishing 4th , 5th, or even 6th in the west with a staff and head coach All In is one thing but
Finishing 4th , 5th or even 6th with the staff and head coach ****ing half-assin it is the issue with majority here.

[CadaverDawg]

How could a national program like MSU with all its' resources not finish ahead of Bama, LSU, Auburn, & A&M every year? Pathetic. I mean, what do those schools offer that we don't?? They're cupcakes!! What is 7 straight bowl games, a stint at #1, and the best QB play in our school's history if we can't be ahead of those 4 cream puffs every year??!!***

Just stop. Try thinking before posting. It's easy to throw out "tied for 5th/6th" without listing the top 4 or looking at the fact that with most coaches in the country, we're likely not tied for 5th/6th, but all alone in 7th.

[bluelightstar]

How could a national program like MSU with all its' resources not finish ahead of Bama, LSU, Auburn, & A&M every year? Pathetic. I mean, what do those schools offer that we don't?? They're cupcakes!! What is 7 straight bowl games, a stint at #1, and the best QB play in our school's history if we can't be ahead of those 4 cream puffs every year??!!***

Just stop. Try thinking before posting. It's easy to throw out "tied for 5th/6th" without listing the top 4 or looking at the fact that with most coaches in the country, we're likely not tied for 5th/6th, but all alone in 7th.

forget finishing ahead of them -- it'd be a nice start to do better than 6-23. Thank goodness Arkansas/Auburn/Ole Miss have cycled being in the tank during his tenure

[Dawg61]

forget finishing ahead of them -- it'd be a nice start to do better than 6-23. Thank goodness Arkansas/Auburn/Ole Miss have cycled being in the tank during his tenure

We'd be 0-29 with Croom or Sherrill

[lamont]

We'd be 0-29 with Croom or Sherrill

What would we have been with Jimbo Fisher- who was turned down by us?

[Dawgface]

What would we have been with Jimbo Fisher- who was turned down by us?

I bet he's thanking God that deal didn't work out.