We just have to accept fact in recruiting

[msstate7]

There are some others I might consider great that aren't quite in those 3 coaches' tier. Only thing I'm saying is Mullen hasn't proven to me just yet that he is a "great" coach.

Or ... maybe he's a great defensive coach since, with the exception of Dak and a couple of others, all our NFL guys a big time defense guys.

I'm not ready to say Mullen is great either, but his age should be considered. Saban is 65. Urban is 52. Harbaugh is 53. Jimbo fisher is 51. Mullen is 44. I think the 50s is where coaches peak

[dawgday166]

I'm not ready to say Mullen is great either, but his age should be considered. Saban is 65. Urban is 52. Harbaugh is 53. Jimbo fisher is 51. Mullen is 44. I think the 50s is where coaches peak

I'm ok with that and have been trying to stay there myself. You gotta like recruiting (or at least do it very well) to ever hope to be a great college coach tho.

ETA: Howland is a great coach, even tho he's never won it all. I've personally never wavered with him and wouldn't unless we sucked for about 4 years in a row. He's proven before (as a HC) that he knows what he's doing.