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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Most coaches who come out and emphatically say "I'm staying" usually end up leaving the the job that is being speculated about ... The Dark Lord is an example.
Yep. Those that believe they're staying have no real reason to be emphatic about anything because they're not really even thinking about leaving and don't much care. Those that know they're probably gone but don't want it out yet are more likely to say something emphatic to quell the rumors for a short period of time.
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
Sure, initial speculation on an opening just throws a list out there. That's just people guessing at some potential hires, but when his name lingers in the coaching search much beyond the initial speculation, it's because he and his agent either are keeping his name in the discussion or he's actually out interviewing for the job. David Shaw gets mentioned for jobs all the time but rarely is mentioned after the initial speculation because he doesn't keep his name in the discussion. Chris Petersen at Boise st rarely was considered a serious candidate until he left for Washington (only one I remember was the USC job). Legit reporters don't just throw out bullshit names when reporting on finalists for jobs and reporting who has been interviewing. They get it from a source they feel is reliable. It's not a bunch of reporters sitting around deciding they wanna **** with msu fans so they blindly report Mullen is a candidate for all these other jobs, they have a reason to report he's interviewing or a finalist for jobs. That's why we get screwed on the recruiting trail.
This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.
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Originally Posted by
ElitedawgRecruiting
The problem is we will have those among us that will want Dan to say he is staying every single time he has a press conference. Past history shows Dan will say it once and that will be the end of it. That's how he is. But someone will have someone "close to the situation", who quite frankly track record has been shitty as hell, say Dan is looking. If the dude says he is staying, here's an idea, let's believe him. Been true before
1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.
2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.
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Originally Posted by
justwin
This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.
Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.
2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.
Maryland was completely false and started by the Maryland 247 site. Rosie even addressed this a few months ago on his show. That's the problem. A year later a people still believe a false rumor.
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.
If they are willing to pay recruits and family members. Move families to Oxford, pay their rent and utilities, I suspect they are willing to pay media people to say things for them. Hell most news reporters are just above the poverty level in pay and they are a easy target. "Here's $1000.00 put this rumor out there for us. Then push it"
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
Google "dan Mullen Maryland".
I did. The only places reporting anything beyond random blogs were SEC Country and Gridiron Now, which are...pretty much random blogs. And they basically just reported that there were rumors, undoubtedly from message boards primarily. The CL briefly reported on the rumors but just to say that his name had been mentioned...which, again, opens up the possibilities to report absolutely anything.
Anyone who believes Mullen was anywhere close to leaving for Maryland is someone I don't trust for information. It is pretty laughable on its face.
There was also a rumor about Mullen and Virginia. Guess where that started...right here: http://virginia.247sports.com/Board/...ullen-41356127.
Just because there is now a limitless supply of sports blogs and forums ready to post any rumor does not make that rumor more legitimate. It is now possible to completely make something up, have it reported in 100 different places, and people start to assume it is fact.
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Originally Posted by
justwin
This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.
Yep
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.
Nope
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I did. The only places reporting anything beyond random blogs were SEC Country and Gridiron Now, which are...pretty much random blogs. And they basically just reported that there were rumors, undoubtedly from message boards primarily. The CL briefly reported on the rumors but just to say that his name had been mentioned...which, again, opens up the possibilities to report absolutely anything.
Anyone who believes Mullen was anywhere close to leaving for Maryland is someone I don't trust for information. It is pretty laughable on its face.
There was also a rumor about Mullen and Virginia. Guess where that started...right here:
http://virginia.247sports.com/Board/...ullen-41356127.
Just because there is now a limitless supply of sports blogs and forums ready to post any rumor does not make that rumor more legitimate. It is now possible to completely make something up, have it reported in 100 different places, and people start to assume it is fact.
You know every year when this Mullen to xxxx starts, I google Mullen to xxxx and there's hardly ever any credible media source reporting it as you just stated. I started googling it when the Mullen to UF started after Urban "retired" and there's very little credible media reporting on any of the rumors. It's astounding what can be generated on the internet.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Maryland was completely false and started by the Maryland 247 site. Rosie even addressed this a few months ago on his show. That's the problem. A year later a people still believe a false rumor.
Hey if it's on the internet it must be true, right?*********************************** smh
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Originally Posted by
DogsofAnarchy
Yea but for some of you wait and see types an ASSHOLE tickle is enough to get you buy for a while. You DO understand that his lack of PUBLIC commitment has cost us recruits don't you? Now I am all for DAN Mullen. Let's get that straight but he has to want us as much as we want him and he has to fix this staff also.
Which recruits has Dan Mullen lost out on because he wouldn't address job hunting rumors? And do you have quotes from said recruits?
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For some reason this continues to be a burr in some folks' asses. A lot of coaches do the same thing and maybe their fan bases react the same way but we don't hear about it. Some coaches have lied and said they'd never leave only to do so a week or so after they said it
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.
2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.
No brother that's where you are 100% wrong. It is for us. And the reason it has the effect on recruiting that it does is because us, the fanbase, keep the shit going. Once he says he is staying leave it alone.
And as far as Mullen to wherever is concerned. 99% of that comes from people so far out of the loop now that they don't even realize there is a loop now. You can be your own worst enemy if all you want to post is click bait.
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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
agree 100%...much more quiet this year
Maybe this is the reason for the change in representation???
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Can we stop this thread? It's only going to lead to stupid shit posts with opinions all over the place. Leave it at what RP said from the start and be done with it. I'm with Dan!!
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Originally Posted by
Bucky Dog
Can we stop this thread? It's only going to lead to stupid shit posts with opinions all over the place. Leave it at what RP said from the start and be done with it. I'm with Dan!!
This!
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Originally Posted by
TXDawg
He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.
The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?
That's great and all for this year, but that's just not true for multiple years in the last, especially last year. He did not definitively refute a damn thing last year and that pisses people off. There are many coaches who do refute rumors and "re-commit" to their current job.
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Originally Posted by
SPMT
That's great and all for this year, but that's just not true for multiple years in the last, especially last year. He did not definitively refute a damn thing last year and that pisses people off. There are many coaches who do refute rumors and "re-commit" to their current job.
He has multiple times for multiple years. People just refuse to accept it
http://www.cdispatch.com/msusports/a....asp?aid=14324
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssp...an-others/amp/
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/s...have/76271802/
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