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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Yep, our scheme last night was terrible. There were probably 4 or 5 times where we got caught with all of our defenders on the interior allowing the Arkansas linemen to just seal off the edge leaving nothing but wide open spaces for the Arkansas RB going out wide. That just can't happen repeatedly but it did.
    Yep we made it way to easy on them. Heck they just toyed with our d. I understand adapting to a new DC and all but we played way better earlier in the year. I know we have been playing the younger guys a whole lot more the last 4-5 weeks and hoping that's part of it. Just a loss to describe what I watched last night after the defense played so well against am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Fair concerns, but I think we are going to be pretty good. We are so explosive at QB and I'm extremely impresses with the chemistry that A Williams and Fitz have at the mesh point of the zone read. They know each other and offer advanced deception.

    Fitz takes pressure off the OL due to his mobility and dual threat. He's more mobile than Dak and defenses have to respect that because a lack discipline is a 75 yard TD whereas with Dak it was a 12 yard gain.

    We'all get Story back as well. I get your concerns, but I think we've found and identity now and we'll be pretty explosive on offense. We won't score on LSU or Bama but we'll put up 30+ against KY, Ark, OM, and BYU. That alone gets us to 8 wins most likely.
    I agree fitz is explosive, williams is a great running back, but next year who have we got to catch the ball,ross is gone,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg27 View Post
    I agree fitz is explosive, williams is a great running back, but next year who have we got to catch the ball,ross is gone,
    Gray, Dear, Mixon, Thomas, Couch has made good strides as a Freshman, Green, hearing Todd may give us good min

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Gray, Dear, Mixon, Thomas, Couch has made good strides as a Freshman, Green, hearing Todd may give us good min
    I think we'll be ok receiving wise. Justin Johnson has shown some flashes too and Jordan Thomas has potential. Aeris can catch the ball out of the backfield as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I think we'll be ok receiving wise. Justin Johnson has shown some flashes too and Jordan Thomas has potential. Aeris can catch the ball out of the backfield as well.
    I think Gibson can catch out of the backfield also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I think Gibson can catch out of the backfield also.
    Just haven't seen enough of him to judge that yet but you're probably right. I think receiving wise we'll be fine across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Just haven't seen enough of him to judge that yet but you're probably right. I think receiving wise we'll be fine across the board.
    What I think it ultimately comes down to on both sides of the ball is the JUCO's we bring in and getting them to contribute ASAP. We need that Guidry guy from Hinds really bad and we need Champion and we need To get Hayes and have them step in right away. It baffles me as to why we aren't looking for a JUCO center unless we're looking at a grad transfer from somewhere and I'm unaware of it.

    I think Simmons and Spencer should be playing more than they are. We need Sweat, Pope, Autry and whomever else we get to have an impact immediately and we need Fletcher Adams to make a huge step. Leo is going to be really good. I like Green's effort most of the time. I might keep him at linebacker because I think the depth chart at linebacker will be slightly thinner there than on the line. Gray and Jung will be seniors but they need to take a step forward and we could use a JUCO linebacker whether we are a 4-3 or a 3-4 team next year. Graham has improved throughout the year, Durr has looked OK at times but needs to step up and then Peters will hopefully improve at corner as well. McLaurin has played well at times and I don't know what's going on with Bryant but I hope we get the 2015 version back next year. I know we're trying to get some JUCO DB's in for next year as well so hopefully they can help as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Just haven't seen enough of him to judge that yet but you're probably right. I think receiving wise we'll be fine across the board.
    Who is going to stretch the field, Gray will try but he's 5'9" and can't really run away from CB's the other guys are serviceable but we lack a homerun guy unless one of the redshirts steps up out of the blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Who is going to stretch the field, Gray will try but he's 5'9" and can't really run away from CB's the other guys are serviceable but we lack a homerun guy unless one of the redshirts steps up out of the blue.
    His size definitely is a liability and we refuse to use him in the slot. I think of we lined him up in the slot he would be able to still stretch the defense out some but it would be an easier match up even though the outside receivers are generally your deep threats conventionally.

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    You have to stretch a defense from the edge where the safeties are not covering the middle by alignment.

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    What do you think about Couch....
    "I'm sure the universe is full of intelligent life. It's just been too intelligent to come here." -- Arthur C. Clarke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Who is going to stretch the field, Gray will try but he's 5'9" and can't really run away from CB's the other guys are serviceable but we lack a homerun guy unless one of the redshirts steps up out of the blue.
    Mixon small but he's a burner, Couch has got potential he's derunnya size but faster, we got a couple other big receivers red shirting and a couple commited. Not saying it'll happen but we have options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    What do you think about Couch....
    Big kid, seems to have some potential but is yet to show it. Maybe not ready for prime time just yet.

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    What it ultimately comes down to is if we can COACH the players we have. There is NO way that South Ala, KY, BYU or Arkansas had better players than MSU. But they were all coached better than us.




    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    What I think it ultimately comes down to on both sides of the ball is the JUCO's we bring in and getting them to contribute ASAP. We need that Guidry guy from Hinds really bad and we need Champion and we need To get Hayes and have them step in right away. It baffles me as to why we aren't looking for a JUCO center unless we're looking at a grad transfer from somewhere and I'm unaware of it.

    I think Simmons and Spencer should be playing more than they are. We need Sweat, Pope, Autry and whomever else we get to have an impact immediately and we need Fletcher Adams to make a huge step. Leo is going to be really good. I like Green's effort most of the time. I might keep him at linebacker because I think the depth chart at linebacker will be slightly thinner there than on the line. Gray and Jung will be seniors but they need to take a step forward and we could use a JUCO linebacker whether we are a 4-3 or a 3-4 team next year. Graham has improved throughout the year, Durr has looked OK at times but needs to step up and then Peters will hopefully improve at corner as well. McLaurin has played well at times and I don't know what's going on with Bryant but I hope we get the 2015 version back next year. I know we're trying to get some JUCO DB's in for next year as well so hopefully they can help as well.
    You hear those bells mother-fudder....an Air-RAID is coming and that is yo ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    You have to stretch a defense from the edge where the safeties are not covering the middle by alignment.
    We used to run post routes effectively with Bumphis and he and Gray are about the same size. I like it when we throw quick little hitches to Gray and he kind of shows that he has some moves which I think he could utilize in the slot on screens and things like that.

    And I know what you are saying about the safeties and stretching the field and I don't disagree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogsofAnarchy View Post
    What it ultimately comes down to is if we can COACH the players we have. There is NO way that South Ala, KY, BYU or Arkansas had better players than MSU. But they were all coached better than us.
    We play Fitz and Aeris like we are now and we win South Alabama at a minimum. That loss messed with our team's psyche for awhile and probably still does to a degree. Dan trying to force the seniors into lead roles like Williams and Holloway hurt us big time this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We play Fitz and Aeris like we are now and we win South Alabama at a minimum. That loss messed with our team's psyche for awhile and probably still does to a degree. Dan trying to force the seniors into lead roles like Williams and Holloway hurt us big time this year.
    Absolutely agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    This is such a stupid reply by people.

    Scott Stricklin ****ed up and hired Rick Ray. He picked Ray over other guys- one of which is Joe Dooley- now the HC at FGC. Dooley has been to 3 straight postseasons and won 66 games in his 3 years there. Thats why the decision to fire Ray was taken away from Scott and Ben Howland was dumped in his lap to hire. We have seen articles about Cohen being in the room asking Mullen questions when he was hired- butwe never saw any of them when Ray was hired. Now you know why.

    Throwing RR at people who suggest getting rid of Mullen may be the right thing to do is just not a smart reply. Our football program is not in disarry or called the "most dysfunctional program in America". Firing Stands had to be done. Hiring RR was a choice by Strick- but he was not our only option. Just like hiring Croom over Jimbo Fisher was an LT choice and mistake.
    I don't blame you for being touchy on this subject. Your information on that hire has always been very poor. On THAT I have a VERY good source. Most people wouldn't even talk to us about the job. There were two basic reasons, one you have always harped on and I have never really argued with it. The other is it was thought around the coaching community that our expectations were entirely unrealistic. That is the kiss of death when hiring a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    I don't blame you for being touchy on this subject. Your information on that hire has always been very poor. On THAT I have a VERY good source. Most people wouldn't even talk to us about the job. There were two basic reasons, one you have always harped on and I have never really argued with it. The other is it was thought around the coaching community that our expectations were entirely unrealistic. That is the kiss of death when hiring a coach.
    I don't doubt your source, I really think that the absolute wrong people were driving that "search". When things had to happen those folk had no sack, the Howland hire was over and done with before any of the people in the AD had a clue what was going on. Sadly we had a chance to change the status quo but that got blown up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    I don't blame you for being touchy on this subject. Your information on that hire has always been very poor. On THAT I have a VERY good source. Most people wouldn't even talk to us about the job. There were two basic reasons, one you have always harped on and I have never really argued with it. The other is it was thought around the coaching community that our expectations were entirely unrealistic. That is the kiss of death when hiring a coach.
    100% bullshit

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