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    Stolen from Dawg at Auburn

    SEC offensive linemen in the NFL:

    Alabama 9
    Florida 8
    LSU 7
    Tex A&M 6
    Missouri 5
    Georgia 5
    Tenn 5
    Mississippi 5
    UPig 4
    SC 4
    Auburn 3
    Vandy 2
    Kentucky 1
    State 1

    There are about 265 OL jobs in the NFL- 65 from the SEC. We have a Croom recruit- Gabe Jackson

    Looking at the numbers- the winningest teams in the SEC recently have the most.
    Also- roughly 25% of the NFL's OL guys are from the SEC. Shows the importance of OL recruiting for playing winning football.

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    Agenda again.

    Why don't you do it for every position then.
    DL
    Lbs
    CB
    S
    Wr
    Rb

    I would have to say we are at the bottom in all of them.

    So I guess we might have a hell of a coach who can win more than 70% of his games over 7 years.

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    Why is truth agenda?

    We are in the top half of the SEC in draft picks the last 5 years. So no- we are producing talent

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Agenda again.

    Why don't you do it for every position then.
    DL
    Lbs
    CB
    S
    Wr
    Rb

    I would have to say we are at the bottom in all of them.

    So I guess we might have a hell of a coach who can win more than 70% of his games over 7 years.

    Are you serious? He just posted a fact. This is Mullen's/Hevesey's 8th year in the program and they have ZERO O-line recruits in the NFL. ZERO.

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    Those stats aren't from the last 5 years. Breakdown those numbers further by who recruited them then its not an agenda.

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    I'm thinking the "Agenda" should be to address this issue, regardless of who the HC is. Cause it is a big issue.

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    How long a period? If it's over Mullen's state career, auburn has won a natty and been a runner up with 2 more olinemen in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Those stats aren't from the last 5 years. Breakdown those numbers further by who recruited them then its not an agenda.
    I don't understand what you mean. Hevesey has been here 8 years. He has recruited and signed about 50 O-linemen and none have made it in the NFL. You would think dumb luck would at least provide 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I don't understand what you mean. Hevesey has been here 8 years. He has recruited and signed about 50 O-linemen and none have made it in the NFL. You would think dumb luck would at least provide 1.
    Freeze gets praised as a great recruiter and he's only put 1 in the NFL... lot of debt still to be paid for that one too. Freeze did go get a graduate transfer too though to be fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Freeze gets praised as a great recruiter and he's only put 1 in the NFL... lot of debt still to be paid for that one too. Freeze did go get a graduate transfer too though to be fair
    He's got a couple of more on the roster as well. We don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Agenda again.
    With all due respect, if we can't all at least admit our O-line recruiting has been horrendous than this is all I got...


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    Our OLine recruiting is a known quantity. You can go back and look at our teams, or others and a good oline is what it takes to be competitive. The elite coaches recruit that position very hard. Very difficult to be good with a subpar oline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Agenda again.

    Why don't you do it for every position then.
    DL
    Lbs
    CB
    S
    Wr
    Rb

    I would have to say we are at the bottom in all of them.

    So I guess we might have a hell of a coach who can win more than 70% of his games over 7 years.
    Well...we have a few DL in the NFL. And you are welcome to get back to me when those other positions are as important as OL. Most would factor that you play 5 OL on every play...so you have had more OL go through than any other position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Freeze gets praised as a great recruiter and he's only put 1 in the NFL... lot of debt still to be paid for that one too. Freeze did go get a graduate transfer too though to be fair
    Freeze has 2 in the NFL after only 4 years of coaching. Don't forget Cooper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Why is truth agenda?

    We are in the top half of the SEC in draft picks the last 5 years. So no- we are producing talent
    Yeah, but it's not like we have really produced a huge number of OL to begin with. Jackie had a run with Brent Smith, Randy Thomas, and Pork Chop on those late 90s teams. But, before or since what big OL talent has there been at MSU? Kent Hull?

    It's something that has plagued MSU for a long time.
    Last edited by BrunswickDawg; 09-28-2016 at 09:59 AM.

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    Seems like Freeze has 2 - Fahn Cooper seems to have made it. He's on the 49ers roster.

    Overall tho I say screw Freeze, Malzan, Miles, etc. What deficiencies do we have and how do we address them? What do we have to do to get close to the SEC W standard bearer (the big elephant)? Not saying we'll get there but the closer we get the more games we'll win.

    If Mullen does that I'll be big time in his corner.

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    This is a huge issue, whether agenda or not. An OL that blows the other guys off the ball is paramount and instantly upgrades your entire backfield. You don't need 5 star superstar backs. Adequate ones will do. An example of upgrade (potentially). Had Vick Ballard been at Bama, he would have had a good chance at being a Heisman candidate. The OL makes a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Freeze has 2 in the NFL after only 4 years of coaching. Don't forget Cooper
    Graduate transfer... I may have missed another though

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Graduate transfer... I may have missed another though
    Still counts. Freeze recruited and signed him. We are allowed to take grad transfers too

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How long a period? If it's over Mullen's state career, auburn has won a natty and been a runner up with 2 more olinemen in the NFL
    They also had Cam Newton and have an average recruiting ranking in the Top 10...then the talent left and they're 6-10 in the SEC since 2013.

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