Patterson considering transferring?

[Political Hack]

His family wanted him to play immediately, which is likely because they know they need to save his RS season for a possible transfer pending the announcement of sanctions.

Freeze isn't a dummy. He knows burning that RS would likely result in Patterson leaving next year after sanctions are announced. It would allow Patterson to use the RS season as his "sit out" season. Would make life a lot easier for the kid.

I wonder how Freeze was justifying this to his family. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those conversations. Ole lying Hugh at it again.

[Todd4State]

He should have never gone there in the first place. For multiple reasons. It was documented that they were being investigated at that time. Even Archie's kid was smart enough to not go there during an investigation.

Patterson could be hoping that the NCAA will let him transfer without penalty due to the probation so he may come out good in the end.

[StatesboroBlues]

I would think they wanted him to play early when they first signed. Now, it seems a RS year would be the way to go and have the ability to transfer after sanctions. If they are bad enough to transfer than you are probably looking at a bowl ban as being part of the sanctions. Wouldn't most transfers get to leave without having to sit in this situation...seems that is the way I remember USC and others.

Edited: Todd beat me to my line of thinking...

[Political Hack]

I would think they wanted him to play early when they first signed. Now, it seems a RS year would be the way to go and have the ability to transfer after sanctions. If they are bad enough to transfer than you are probably looking at a bowl ban as being part of the sanctions. Wouldn't most transfers get to leave without having to sit in this situation...seems that is the way I remember USC and others.

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

[Bodaski]

The saving grace on them signing while OM is under investigation was manipulated by Freeze. It is well documented the players were lied to about the severity of the investigation. This will be their out to transfer.

[messageboardsuperhero]

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

Or maybe the NCAA is aware of the lies that were told to the recruits about the seriousness of the investigation and let's them go. The recruits knew UM was under investigation, but it's hard to say they knew about the seriousness of it when you have players quoted as being told by Hugh Freeze that it was all old stuff, nothing to do with him, etc.

Combine that with the obvious BS that was leaked to the media before signing day- how can you say the recruits that signed with UM knew how bad it could get?

[HSVDawg]

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

To play devil's advocate, the Forde article didn't come out until February of 2016 and Patterson enrolled after December of 2015. At that time, the "women's basketball and track" narrative was still being spread, and I don't know that any recruits had reason to believe anything different.

[mcain31]

Maybe one of the players will sue the C-L for not informing the public of the investigation in a timely manner

[Bothrops]

I think he transfers after OM has to promote an interim, or hires a replacement. He may not play a single snap at OM.

[Political Hack]

To play devil's advocate, the Forde article didn't come out until February of 2016 and Patterson enrolled after December of 2015. At that time, the "women's basketball and track" narrative was still being spread, and I don't know that any recruits had reason to believe anything different.

The timing is key for him. Didn't realize he was an early enrollee.

They could clear them all to transfer, but I just see this as being different than USC. The length of the investigation alone will work against it. The one thing that the NCAA won't consider is players saying "but Hugh lied to me." They'll probably laugh and say "yeah, we've met him too."

[Tbonewannabe]

I think he transfers after OM has to promote an interim, or hires a replacement. He may not play a single snap at OM.

Talk about not getting any bang for your buck.

[gtowndawg]

Talk about not getting any bang for your buck.

Oh, they got their bang all right. Crootin' rankings an all.

[StatesboroBlues]

Edited: was said above.

[Johnson85]

The timing is key for him. Didn't realize he was an early enrollee.

They could clear them all to transfer, but I just see this as being different than USC. The length of the investigation alone will work against it. The one thing that the NCAA won't consider is players saying "but Hugh lied to me." They'll probably laugh and say "yeah, we've met him too."

Depends on whether the NCAA wants to put more of the punishment on the school or the players. If they make it hard for people to transfer, they allow UM to benefit more from their cheating and may end up not punishing the players that much either. If they all stay, UM will be pretty decent over their career and they'll at worst end up missing two bowls, which a lot of players will do just by virtue of the team not being that good. If they let the players leave with no penalty, it will hurt UM that much more nad make other schools that more hesitant to copy their game plan.

[notsofarawaydawg]

The almighty power of this got them on campus.......

[StatesboroBlues]

Depends on whether the NCAA wants to put more of the punishment on the school or the players. If they make it hard for people to transfer, they allow UM to benefit more from their cheating and may end up not punishing the players that much either. If they all stay, UM will be pretty decent over their career and they'll at worst end up missing two bowls, which a lot of players will do just by virtue of the team not being that good. If they let the players leave with no penalty, it will hurt UM that much more nad make other schools that more hesitant to copy their game plan.

Exactly...scholarship reductions are magnified when you have transfers. The team does not have the ability to make up for those scholarships along with your normal transfers, players giving up football, and graduation.

I will try and find the article that was written about USC talking about this very issue. They had very little transfer (even though it was given, I think one RB to Penn State maybe) and it made a huge difference in the program.

[WSOPdawg]

I LOVE THIS SUBJECT MATTER!!!

I fully expect the NCAA to allow the Bears' players to transfer without penalty after the hammer drops, which should further decimate their program. Now, if we can only get the hammer to drop by mid-February 2017 (which I'm not holding my breath on).

[Tbonewannabe]

Can Dan start having late night calls with Little? We could use some Oline help.

[dawgday166]

Can Dan start having late night calls with Little? We could use some Oline help.

Little couldn't crack our lineup then. We'll be loaded with 3* developmental guys that Hev has turned into NFL prospects ***

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

This title indicates that he is really considering transferring but it should be "Will he consider transferring?"