Administration & Mullen

[Coastdog28]

We all know the backstory. Mullen has looked around at least once, but probably multiple times. This coupled with lack of recruiting effort, country club coaches, and probably some administration/boosters not "helping" as much as other programs has led to poor recruiting. Not only do we have an overall lack of talent as compared to most of the SEC, but we have gaping holes in multiple positions.

Dak certainly masked several deficiencies. In 2014, we were an OLine away from a spot in the playoffs. We went air raid in 2015 to try and further mask the even more depleted Oline. Now with Dak gone, and other players (as well as sub par recruiting), there are gaping holes all across the board. #1 feels like a lifetime ago. Absolutely no momentum was gained from it. That is depressing. The staff basically mailed it in during/after 2014.


Now, some have suggested that the administration and boosters are angry at the lack of loyalty and effort. Has anything actually been done about it? Is it to the point that Dan is basically going through the motions until he is either fired or can make a lateral move, or did anything the administrations say or do actually light a fire in him to try and start building again? Obviously, if the administration really thought he has mailed it in, surely he'd be fired? I guess this is probably a question that nobody but Dan knows for sure.

[bulldawg989]

i have zero confidence in Stricklin doing anything proactive to address the issues Mullen has, until Keenum or some big money boosters force him to do something he'll just defer to Mullen. Stricklin has to give permission for Mullen to interview or give another school permission to speak to Mullen (i think) so he full well knows Mullen looks every chance he gets. my opinion is Stricklin goes down with the Mullen ship.

[Homedawg]

i have zero confidence in Stricklin doing anything proactive to address the issues Mullen has, until Keenum or some big money boosters force him to do something he'll just defer to Mullen. Stricklin has to give permission for Mullen to interview or give another school permission to speak to Mullen (i think) so he full well knows Mullen looks every chance he gets. my opinion is Stricklin goes down with the Mullen ship.

You speak as if it's a fact and then throw in an "I think". This is why reading message boards is counter productive.... He agent doesn't need Stricklin's permission and Dan didn't get an extension. So there's that.

[Really Clark?]

You speak as if it's a fact and then throw in an "I think". This is why reading message boards is counter productive.... He agent doesn't need Stricklin's permission and Dan didn't get an extension. So there's that.

I think he is meaning he "thinks" other schools will call the AD to get permission to interview a sitting head coach. They normally do as a courtesy, but most know that some talks with the agent and back channels take place. But when it comes to officially interviewing someone in the running most schools ask for permission to talk with them.

[MadDawg]

Obviously, if the administration really thought he has mailed it in, surely he'd be fired? I guess this is probably a question that nobody but Dan knows for sure.

I have read hundreds of posts today from people who claim they know for fact.

[msstate7]

I have read hundreds of posts today from people who claim they know for fact.

It's all coming out now. Last week, Dan was a qb guru and we'd never have to worry about qb play again under him. Fast forward 4-5 days and Mullen needs to be fired right now

[RougeDawg]

It's all coming out now. Last week, Dan was a qb guru and we'd never have to worry about qb play again under him. Fast forward 4-5 days and Mullen needs to be fired right now

I found out a handful of things this weekend that I didn't know before. One of which was his off field antics this past year and then the demands he made when he didn't land a new job. Basically whored himself out and then when no one wanted him, came back with some pretty outrageous demands. One of which included making Hev one of the highest paid assistants in all of college football. Let that shit sink in. Our brilliant HC wanted to law our shittiest coach and recruiter one of the highest paid assistance? Who thef*ck even remotely thinks that's rational thinking? Dan has completely lost it and if you had heard the offseason shit he pulled this year you would fully agree. I'm surprised he's even still around. If something doesn't change, he gone come November. Book that one.

[Coastdog28]

I found out a handful of things this weekend that I didn't know before. One of which was his off field antics this past year and then the demands he made when he didn't land a new job. Basically whored himself out and then when no one wanted him, came back with some pretty outrageous demands. One of which included making Hev one of the highest paid assistants in all of college football. Let that shit sink in. Our brilliant HC wanted to law our shittiest coach and recruiter one of the highest paid assistance? Who thef*ck even remotely thinks that's rational thinking? Dan has completely lost it and if you had heard the offseason shit he pulled this year you would fully agree. I'm surprised he's even still around. If something doesn't change, he gone come November. Book that one.

For our sake, I really hope this isn't true. If it is true, everything that has happened since late 2014 up until now, makes total sense.

Also, if this is the case, both sides basically sound done. It's probably an inevitable outcome if so. It seems like a mutual parting of ways is probably the best outcome we can hope for.

[Dawgology]

I found out a handful of things this weekend that I didn't know before. One of which was his off field antics this past year and then the demands he made when he didn't land a new job. Basically whored himself out and then when no one wanted him, came back with some pretty outrageous demands. One of which included making Hev one of the highest paid assistants in all of college football. Let that shit sink in. Our brilliant HC wanted to law our shittiest coach and recruiter one of the highest paid assistance? Who thef*ck even remotely thinks that's rational thinking? Dan has completely lost it and if you had heard the offseason shit he pulled this year you would fully agree. I'm surprised he's even still around. If something doesn't change, he gone come November. Book that one.

Out with it. Or PM me. I want to know.

[RougeDawg]

Out with it. Or PM me. I want to know.

I see my wonderful iPhone put law instead of pay. Dan wanted to make Hevesy one of highest paid OLine coaches in all of football after he had shopped himself for multiple HC positions and failed. He came back to our admin and demanded astronomical raises for himself, Hev and one other who may have warranted a raise but not that much. He essentially said he wanted to leave and then came back and tried to milk our bank account for he and his country club boys.

ETA he has acted like a whiney bitch since end of 14 season and is trying to blame any and everyone else but himself. This all goes back to Strick not taking a stand early on.

[Tbonewannabe]

It seems like Dan is at a crossroads. I don't know how active he was looking for a job prior to last year but he seems like he wants out. I don't know what caused it but he has been different. It seems the sticking point is now he makes more money than most schools would be willing to pay. He gets paid around top 15 in college football and a big school isn't going to pay that since he doesn't have any big time wins over a team that finished the year with less than 4 losses.

He either has to take a pay cut to leave or get us to fire him.

[Coastdog28]

You would think continuing to build on the success of being #1, and he could've at least found a similarly paying, lateral job? It really seems like it's a case of being burned out and some sort of breakdown with administration. Not giving him enough money for assistants, handcuffing recruiting, etc?

[Tbonewannabe]

You would think continuing to build on the success of being #1, and he could've at least found a similarly paying, lateral job? It really seems like it's a case of being burned out and some sort of breakdown with administration. Not giving him enough money for assistants, handcuffing recruiting, etc?

If he didn't have the leverage to get whatever he needed after 2014 then I don't think it will ever get fixed.

[gtowndawg]

It seems like Dan is at a crossroads. I don't know how active he was looking for a job prior to last year but he seems like he wants out. I don't know what caused it but he has been different. It seems the sticking point is now he makes more money than most schools would be willing to pay. He gets paid around top 15 in college football and a big school isn't going to pay that since he doesn't have any big time wins over a team that finished the year with less than 4 losses.

He either has to take a pay cut to leave or get us to fire him.

I really think he would take any job after this season. But would even a lower tier Power 5 school hire him if we go 3-8? Because I'm not sure they would at that point and if they did it would be for a massive paycut which I don't think he will do. So I keep coming back to firing him. It's the only way out I see that benefits our program.

[HSVDawg]

I really think he would take any job after this season. But would even a lower tier Power 5 school hire him if we go 3-8? Because I'm not sure they would at that point and if they did it would be for a massive paycut which I don't think he will do. So I keep coming back to firing him. It's the only way out I see that benefits our program.

This is an underrated possibility that I think needs to be discussed more. I still think several schools would take him. Someone in the mold of a Kansas, Wake Forest, Iowa State, Indiana, Washington State, Rutgers. etc. would easily roll the dice on him even with a 3-9 or so finish. Coaches talk a lot, and its publicly known that he was truly burned out and just wanted out of Starkville then I think he could land something. There will be a minimum of 4 or 5 of those type jobs open this offseason, and I think he would take a small paycut (maybe $3 milion or so) to get one if the alternative was being fired this year or next. That is honestly the best situation for both him and us if things spiral out of control this season.

[Todd4State]

This is an underrated possibility that I think needs to be discussed more. I still think several schools would take him. Someone in the mold of a Kansas, Wake Forest, Iowa State, Indiana, Washington State, Rutgers. etc. would easily roll the dice on him even with a 3-9 or so finish. Coaches talk a lot, and its publicly known that he was truly burned out and just wanted out of Starkville then I think he could land something. There will be a minimum of 4 or 5 of those type jobs open this offseason, and I think he would take a small paycut (maybe $3 milion or so) to get one if the alternative was being fired this year or next. That is honestly the best situation for both him and us if things spiral out of control this season.

For that to happen I think we would have to lose and he would have to resign next week to save face. I think teams are going to be leery about him because I think a lot of schools are going to think that it was more about Dak than Dan.

My guess as to what is most likely to happen if we tank it is I bet Urban picks him back up in some capacity. It may be an analyst or advisor role until someone hires his OC and then Dan moves back up that way.

Personally I think Dan needs to step back from coaching for a little bit- at the very least head coaching.

[starkvegasdawg]

I found out a handful of things this weekend that I didn't know before. One of which was his off field antics this past year and then the demands he made when he didn't land a new job. Basically whored himself out and then when no one wanted him, came back with some pretty outrageous demands. One of which included making Hev one of the highest paid assistants in all of college football. Let that shit sink in. Our brilliant HC wanted to law our shittiest coach and recruiter one of the highest paid assistance? Who thef*ck even remotely thinks that's rational thinking? Dan has completely lost it and if you had heard the offseason shit he pulled this year you would fully agree. I'm surprised he's even still around. If something doesn't change, he gone come November. Book that one.

I wish they'd tell Dan that Hev WILL be fired. The only question is whether or not he goes with him...ala Croom and McCorvey. Choice is his and he is now on the clock.

[Todd4State]

I wish they'd tell Dan that Hev WILL be fired. The only question is whether or not he goes with him...ala Croom and McCorvey. Choice is his and he is now on the clock.

At least per urban legend Croom was willing to demote McCorvey at the very end but Byrne said we were going in a different direction.

[Todd4State]

I don't understand why we didn't tell Dan to just leave if he didn't want to be here? He and MSU probably would have both been better off.

[basedog]

I don't understand why we didn't tell Dan to just leave if he didn't want to be here? He and MSU probably would have both been better off.

Where would he have gone?