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What if the NCAA accused OM of hiring Freeze with the sole purpose of cheating?
I wouldn't be scared to lay down good money on that theory. What experience did he have coming in to lead a D-1 SEC football program? He was OC 1 year at Ark St. under Malzhon and 1 year HC at Ark St. His experience was knowing how the "network" operated and he had the personality for it to operate and hide behind. The fact the NCAA was knee deep at OM after his first year on the job speaks volumes. Or, maybe the descrepancies under Freeze were uncovered while looking into other sports and previous coaching staffs. Either way, Freeze was knee deep in recruiting in Orgeron's 1st year and he knew the intricacies of how the "network" operated. No one will every convince me of anything different in the hiring of Freeze. He was brought in to do exactly what they have done, cheat!
Last edited by Bodaski; 07-31-2016 at 11:37 AM.
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Even for diehard MSU fans that want their asses nailed, that's a stretch!
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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I would think that the NCAA has to keep its written allegations within the framework of its written rule structure - what is permissible and what isn't permissible. I would doubt the NCAA can create a written allegation that goes into the hypothetical or theoretical.
Last edited by Chip; 07-31-2016 at 11:47 AM.
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FACT: After Nutt was booted, Ole Miss had a problem finding a guy to take the job.
They hired Freeze because Freeze wanted it and they had no better choice.
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Originally Posted by
Bodaski
What if the NCAA accused OM of hiring Freeze with the sole purpose of cheating? I wouldn't be scared to lay down good money on that theory.
I bet you'd be surprised if you knew exactly how many people shared your feelings. I have thought the exact same thing for a while.
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Ole Miss did know what get where getting with Freeze. He was Orgeron's recruiting coordinator. Orgeron wrote the book. Freeze was his prot?g
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They knew what they were doing for sure, but the NCAA could never develop any level of reliable evidence for an accusation like that. That could honestly spell the death penalty for the NCAA if they did that. The NCAA is a paper tiger regardless. They're only as powerful as its members allow them to be.
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Rev Hugh Chizik was hired in response to OM losing three Egg Bowls in a row. I doubt if any thoughtful person thinks the last OM couching hire was made without an intention to rectify their recent slide, by any means necessary.
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The lead men in hiring Freeze were Archie and Fed Ex Fred. Big money and been around the cheating since the Vaught days. Archie was a MSU fan in his younger days, but he couldn't turn down the Vaught deal. Young man who's daddy had just committed suicide and left a family that needed to be taken care of, not a hard choice.
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I don't know why it's hard to believe. They fired David Cutcliff because he wouldn't play like the "network" wanted him to.
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Fred Smith isn't nearly as involved with om as you seem to believe. Touhy was the ring leader for freeze
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MrKotter
Fred Smith isn't nearly as involved with om as you seem to believe. Touhy was the ring leader for freeze
Could be, that's certainly believable and the more I think about it highly likely. But as far as Touhy is concerned, it must be unbelievable to be married to smoking hot Sandra Bullock.*****
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It's my opinion that once they got to Freeze (after others turned them down) the booster decision makers made sure Freeze "understood" the situation: Identify the targets, let the Network 'go to work' and stay out of it and coach football.
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Stretch to think NCAA would find that, but it's absolutely what happened.
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Originally Posted by
Bodaski
I wouldn't be scared to lay down good money on that theory. What experience did he have coming in to lead a D-1 SEC football program? He was OC 1 year at Ark St. under Malzhon and 1 year HC at Ark St. His experience was knowing how the "network" operated and he had the personality for it to operate and hide behind. The fact the NCAA was knee deep at OM after his first year on the job speaks volumes. Or, maybe the descrepancies under Freeze were uncovered while looking into other sports and previous coaching staffs. Either way, Freeze was knee deep in recruiting in Orgeron's 1st year and he knew the intricacies of how the "network" operated. No one will every convince me of anything different in the hiring of Freeze. He was brought in to do exactly what they have done, cheat!
Good ole Arch knew....
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Saltydog
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Not at all.
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Originally Posted by
MrKotter
Fred Smith isn't nearly as involved with om as you seem to believe. Touhy was the ring leader for freeze
Taco Chico and FredEx know each other well. Infer from that what you will.
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From the standpont that the NCAA will do anything, "YES", it's a stretch......
It's not only a stretch, it's a FAR stretch........From the standpoint that that's why they hired him, why heck yeah that's plausible but expecting the NCAA to punish them for hiring him is, well stupid.
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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This started with Boone being ousted. Boone was not allowing the network to perform as intended. He had to go first....
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