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    Rewatching the spring game

    And I have no doubt that Tiano is the future at QB. None. Fitz will likely play the majority of reps this season. But there ain't a whole lot of difference between the two, and Tiano may beat Fitz out before the season is even over. Williams is Williams. He has the better arm and grasp of the playbook, but he's doing about all he's capable of. Agree with Coach, Staley is closer to fourth than starting.

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    I'm gonna agree with you on Tiano and Fitz being the starter this year, but this whole Williams has the better arm is over exaggerated. He throws a nice tight spiral but so does Tiano and Fitz. Williams has an adequate arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    I'm gonna agree with you on Tiano and Fitz being the starter this year, but this whole Williams has the better arm is over exaggerated. He throws a nice tight spiral but so does Tiano and Fitz. Williams has an adequate arm
    Williams may have the best raw arm strength but it's negated due an extremely slow released that's caused by a hitch and horizontal stab in his arm action. Watch Williams next time, he has a hitch right in the middle of his arm stroke that causes him to telegraph every pass.

    He simply doesn't have the actions to be an effective QB in the SEC.

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    none of our QB's have an arm strength problem- its decision-making that's going to be the key. Slow clocks and a bad OL don't mix
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    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    And I have no doubt that Tiano is the future at QB. None. Fitz will likely play the majority of reps this season. But there ain't a whole lot of difference between the two, and Tiano may beat Fitz out before the season is even over. Williams is Williams. He has the better arm and grasp of the playbook, but he's doing about all he's capable of. Agree with Coach, Staley is closer to fourth than starting.
    I watched it recently too, Staley's movement in the pocket are just too slow at this point. I love his size, but we are going to have to run the Relf offense for him to be effective.

    I still think Fitz is the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about

    Couple of things, I'm just predicting, it's really unknown at this point to know if we can run block and young QB's not making mistakes. Dak was a different animal at QB, he knew how to read defenses plus he was smart. That again is unknown with inexperienced but talented QB's except for a slow footed Williams who is barely a 50% passer.

    As far as teams we play in the SEC, bunch of toss up games that are winnable but at the same time we could lose. I surely hope you are right and I'm wrong.

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    Yeah, I don't buy the nobody has more success at QB than Malzahn line. Was that meant to be a joke.


    Eta: JUCO Quarterbacks. My bad. Yeah, Gus had a good run with Nick Marshall on '13. But don't lets act most of that season wasn't a fluke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
    I think your crazy 8 wins with our schedule is easily doable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    And I have no doubt that Tiano is the future at QB. None. Fitz will likely play the majority of reps this season. But there ain't a whole lot of difference between the two, and Tiano may beat Fitz out before the season is even over. Williams is Williams. He has the better arm and grasp of the playbook, but he's doing about all he's capable of. Agree with Coach, Staley is closer to fourth than starting.
    Fitz is the best QB and has the highest ceiling. I agree with you on Tiano he looked great especially for a freshman but its one game. A spring game. Whoever said Williams has the best arm is nuts. Williams is by far the least talented of the group

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Yeah, I don't buy the nobody has more success at QB than Malzahn line. Was that meant to be a joke.


    Eta: JUCO Quarterbacks. My bad. Yeah, Gus had a good run with Nick Marshall on '13. But don't lets act most of that season wasn't a fluke.
    And Cam Newton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
    That's been the EXACT same narrative every single year we've played Auburn under Mullen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr. View Post
    And Cam Newton
    Well, yeah. He's Cam Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Well, yeah. He's Cam Newton.
    yeah no kidding - I'm thinking Malzahn didn't have a Hell of a lot to do with Newton's success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Well, yeah. He's Cam Newton.
    He's still a juco transfer. Auburn also had the 4th best O in the SEC in 2014 with Marshall. My point remains. Malzahn has been extremely successful with juco transfers.

    2015 was his 1st bad offense. I wouldn't count on him having 2 in a row
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption View Post
    yeah no kidding - I'm thinking Malzahn didn't have a Hell of a lot to do with Newton's success.
    Cmon man. He still had to be coached. Tom Brady and Payton Manning don't have NCAA national championships.
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    The o/u in Vegas for our win totals is 6.5 wins. Some of you need to take a step back. Not saying that we can't win 8 or even more games, but we won 8 games in the regular season with our best qb in the history of the program last year and a very weak SEC East schedule. We aren't going to improve on that and probably aren't even going to win as many as last year with the departures we had at key positions and return of an offensive line group that was horrible. The schedule this year is not brutal (for an SEC West team) but it won't be nearly as easy to win 8 this year as it was last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.
    After talking to a couple folks I'm not as concerned with our OL. they could be wrong but they are in a position to know and both have said we'll be better there than last year.

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