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Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
That's been the EXACT same narrative every single year we've played Auburn under Mullen
Mullen is 3-3 against AU. AU's SEC record in the 3 years we beat them? 6-18
Bottom line, if they are average, I like our chances. I keep hearing they are going to run the ball 60+ times a game, should be interesting. We get them at home, my guess is that the game is a pick em.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
The o/u in Vegas for our win totals is 6.5 wins. Some of you need to take a step back. Not saying that we can't win 8 or even more games, but we won 8 games in the regular season with our best qb in the history of the program last year and a very weak SEC East schedule. We aren't going to improve on that and probably aren't even going to win as many as last year with the departures we had at key positions and return of an offensive line group that was horrible. The schedule this year is not brutal (for an SEC West team) but it won't be nearly as easy to win 8 this year as it was last year.
I will be content with 7 wins in the regular season this season. It is a definite rebuild year with a young team. I believe our program is to a point where 7 wins should equal a down year. 6 is borderline and anything less is a failure and we are not progressing like we should be. That be said, 7 wins and then a nice bowl win would make a good "rebuild" year and prep us for the 2017 season.
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I don't think we have any rational fan that would scoff at a solid 8-5 campaign. But I could see 9-4. I honestly could.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
The o/u in Vegas for our win totals is 6.5 wins. Some of you need to take a step back. Not saying that we can't win 8 or even more games, but we won 8 games in the regular season with our best qb in the history of the program last year and a very weak SEC East schedule. We aren't going to improve on that and probably aren't even going to win as many as last year with the departures we had at key positions and return of an offensive line group that was horrible. The schedule this year is not brutal (for an SEC West team) but it won't be nearly as easy to win 8 this year as it was last year.
What was the o/u the past 2 preseasons
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
After talking to a couple folks I'm not as concerned with our OL. they could be wrong but they are in a position to know and both have said we'll be better there than last year.
They really think we'll be better than 17ing awful?!?!?!
beijg better than last year on the oline is necessary just to get to 6 wins.
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Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
What was the o/u the past 2 preseasons
Someone actually had is picked at 4-8. Yeah, that bad.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Mullen is 3-3 against AU. AU's SEC record in the 3 years we beat them? 6-18
Mullen is 3-4 vs Auburn
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It's not just the OL that concerns me.
Our starting cb's right now have to be close to the worst starting pair in the SEC, if not the worst. Jiles is just not an SEC cb and Cleveland struggled mightily when inserted into the starting lineup to replace Redmond. Let's hope and pray we see a couple of the RS Freshmen or Durr step up quickly before South Carolina. Our safeties must tackle much better too, especially in open field. A few more INT's are needed too to offset the cb position
Chris Jones dominated inside last season but he is gone. Our other DT's did not do a whole lot last year so how will this group do this season without CJ. Who will step up???
6-6 or 5-7
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Originally Posted by
biggun
It's not just the OL that concerns me.
Our starting cb's right now have to be close to the worst starting pair in the SEC, if not the worst. Jiles is just not an SEC cb and Cleveland struggled mightily when inserted into the starting lineup to replace Redmond. Let's hope and pray we see a couple of the RS Freshmen or Durr step up quickly before South Carolina. Our safeties must tackle much better too, especially in open field. A few more INT's are needed too to offset the cb position
Chris Jones dominated inside last season but he is gone. Our other DT's did not do a whole lot last year so how will this group do this season without CJ. Who will step up???
6-6 or 5-7
I am not saying we don't go 6-6 but it will not be because of the Defensive Line.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn
I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
The same can be said going 6-6 by glance....Ludicrous. Auburn has more holes if not more than we do. They have no proven Qb, no proven Wr's, Barber is their only returning Rb, no proven Lb's, and a secondary that was terrible. We've also had their number so I'm not worried about Auburn.
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Originally Posted by
Pollodawg
Someone actually had is picked at 4-8. Yeah, that bad.
They're talking about Vegas.....and no sportsbook had our win total set at 4 last year.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
The same can be said going 6-6 by glance....Ludicrous. Auburn has more holes if not more than we do. They have no proven Qb, no proven Wr's, Barber is their only returning Rb, no proven Lb's, and a secondary that was terrible. We've also had their number so I'm not worried about Auburn.
Only thing I disagree with is Rb... Jovon Robinson could be one of the best rb's in the sec
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About the spring game...
1) Tiano probably wasn't playing against starters.
2) Yes, Staley looked terrible.
3) Fitz didn't necessarily light the world on fire.
4) Williams clearly looked the best but had absolutely flopped in scrimmages earlier this spring
Therefore, it is anyone's guess. I would wager money on a 2-QB system for at least the first 3 games. My money would be on Fitz and Williams.
My prediction is something north of 7 wins including all four OOC and some combo of SCAR, Kentucky, Auburn, ATM, OM for the other couple wins.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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We have six seniors on the two deep on the DL, we should be good up front. If we aren't, we have a bigger problem.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Mullen is 3-4 vs Auburn
I've erased the 2011 game from my memory.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Only thing I disagree with is Rb... Jovon Robinson could be one of the best rb's in the sec
I forgot about him. I still don't think he'll give them an edge against our LB's
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
The same can be said going 6-6 by glance....Ludicrous. Auburn has more holes if not more than we do. They have no proven Qb, no proven Wr's, Barber is their only returning Rb, no proven Lb's, and a secondary that was terrible. We've also had their number so I'm not worried about Auburn.
we have no proven QB either- but ther OL is much better
They return their 2nd thru 4th TB's. Robinson out rushed our top 2 RB's by himself and was also their bowl MVP
Their Secondary was terrible? They gave up one less TD pass than us and had one more pick than us- but did give up 6 more yards per game- so what does that make us? And they return 3 of 4- we lost by far our 2 best CB's
Auburn doesn't have near the holes we do. We might fill them- but right now- a lot to be concerned about on our end
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
We have six seniors on the two deep on the DL, we should be good up front. If we aren't, we have a bigger problem.
i think we will be solid on the DL- but DE depth is concerning. But the SEC West is so loaded on the DL it's crazy. We're 5th at best on the DL- depending how OM and UPig come along
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Our secondary won't be any worse than last year. I believe we have upgraded coaches. Manny was the biggest reason our defense sucked last year. Manny is gone.
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Originally Posted by
biggun
It's not just the OL that concerns me.
Our starting cb's right now have to be close to the worst starting pair in the SEC, if not the worst. Jiles is just not an SEC cb and Cleveland struggled mightily when inserted into the starting lineup to replace Redmond. Let's hope and pray we see a couple of the RS Freshmen or Durr step up quickly before South Carolina. Our safeties must tackle much better too, especially in open field. A few more INT's are needed too to offset the cb position
Chris Jones dominated inside last season but he is gone. Our other DT's did not do a whole lot last year so how will this group do this season without CJ. Who will step up???
6-6 or 5-7
Nick James at times was as disruptive as Chris Jones. AJ Jefferson was also better at getting to the QB. I think our Dline might actually be better especially if Coleman and Calvin keep developing. Both were playing pretty good at the end of the year with Calvin probably our best pass rusher.
I think 7 wins is probable with 8 wins possible or 9 wins as a ceiling. 6 wins are possible but I trust Mullen when it comes to offense. Dan did take Relf and produce top half of the SEC in offense. I rewatched the Belk Bowl and our Oline played better than the rest of the year.
We have a lot of talent on defense so hopefully Sirmon comes up with something to maximize our talent. We probably could play 8 Lbs and 4 safeties, we just need 2 or 3 corners to step up. Hopefully Durr comes in and nails down 1 side so we only have to worry about the other side. Cleveland is a good nickel but I don't see him starting at the other spot.
I could see us winning the 4 OOC games especially since BYU lost their coach. So then you have to win 3 or 4 games of South Carolina at DWS (good chance), UK (Mullen wins this game), Ark at DWS (good chance), AU at DWS (toss up), ATM at DWS (toss up), UM (depends if the NCAA has dropped the hammer and the team quits), Bama (Loss), LSU (Loss).
Just like normal, the only probable losses are Bama and LSU with toss up games at home. So I think we win 7 with a good chance at 8 if all the toss up games don't go against us. South Carolina is early in the year so if nothing else Muschamp is early in his new job. ATM could be bad if we can't handle Garrett. AU is at home so at least it will be a toss up game. Bama and LSU are losses unless we get 5 or so turnovers like UM got. You can throw everything out of the window for the Egg Bowl especially if they just got hammered.
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