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    Rewatching the spring game

    And I have no doubt that Tiano is the future at QB. None. Fitz will likely play the majority of reps this season. But there ain't a whole lot of difference between the two, and Tiano may beat Fitz out before the season is even over. Williams is Williams. He has the better arm and grasp of the playbook, but he's doing about all he's capable of. Agree with Coach, Staley is closer to fourth than starting.

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    I'm gonna agree with you on Tiano and Fitz being the starter this year, but this whole Williams has the better arm is over exaggerated. He throws a nice tight spiral but so does Tiano and Fitz. Williams has an adequate arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    I'm gonna agree with you on Tiano and Fitz being the starter this year, but this whole Williams has the better arm is over exaggerated. He throws a nice tight spiral but so does Tiano and Fitz. Williams has an adequate arm
    Williams may have the best raw arm strength but it's negated due an extremely slow released that's caused by a hitch and horizontal stab in his arm action. Watch Williams next time, he has a hitch right in the middle of his arm stroke that causes him to telegraph every pass.

    He simply doesn't have the actions to be an effective QB in the SEC.

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    none of our QB's have an arm strength problem- its decision-making that's going to be the key. Slow clocks and a bad OL don't mix
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    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
    I think your crazy 8 wins with our schedule is easily doable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous
    That's been the EXACT same narrative every single year we've played Auburn under Mullen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    That's been the EXACT same narrative every single year we've played Auburn under Mullen
    Mullen is 3-3 against AU. AU's SEC record in the 3 years we beat them? 6-18

    Bottom line, if they are average, I like our chances. I keep hearing they are going to run the ball 60+ times a game, should be interesting. We get them at home, my guess is that the game is a pick em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Auburn is better than we on the OL and DL. Their Secondary is likely as good if not better. Their RB situation is better. Their TE situation is better. We are better than them at LB and WR. QB? We'll see. Nobody has had more success with juco QB's than Gus Malzahn

    I don't see how anyone can look at our team and think we are a for sure 8 win team. That's ludicrous


    The same can be said going 6-6 by glance....Ludicrous. Auburn has more holes if not more than we do. They have no proven Qb, no proven Wr's, Barber is their only returning Rb, no proven Lb's, and a secondary that was terrible. We've also had their number so I'm not worried about Auburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    The same can be said going 6-6 by glance....Ludicrous. Auburn has more holes if not more than we do. They have no proven Qb, no proven Wr's, Barber is their only returning Rb, no proven Lb's, and a secondary that was terrible. We've also had their number so I'm not worried about Auburn.
    we have no proven QB either- but ther OL is much better
    They return their 2nd thru 4th TB's. Robinson out rushed our top 2 RB's by himself and was also their bowl MVP
    Their Secondary was terrible? They gave up one less TD pass than us and had one more pick than us- but did give up 6 more yards per game- so what does that make us? And they return 3 of 4- we lost by far our 2 best CB's

    Auburn doesn't have near the holes we do. We might fill them- but right now- a lot to be concerned about on our end
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    I've watched our spring game at least 5 times, every spring game on the SEC Network at least twice. You are REALLY reaching if you see more than 4 losses on our schedule. 1. LSU, who's QB situation is STILL worse than ours; 2. Bama - see the LSU comment; 3. A&M - who we will score points on (we always do) and CAN outscore and; 4. om - who could very well be dismantled by that point

    This overt concern about the O-line is misguided. Dak stayed in the pocket last year more, "by design". Our QBs will NOT be in the pocket much this year "by design". That will negate an, albeit better than 2015, but still not great O-line in ways that you guys are not even thinking about

    Couple of things, I'm just predicting, it's really unknown at this point to know if we can run block and young QB's not making mistakes. Dak was a different animal at QB, he knew how to read defenses plus he was smart. That again is unknown with inexperienced but talented QB's except for a slow footed Williams who is barely a 50% passer.

    As far as teams we play in the SEC, bunch of toss up games that are winnable but at the same time we could lose. I surely hope you are right and I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    After talking to someone I know very well who is an "insider" about what he thinks about the upcoming football team, he says "inexperience QB and the unknown of our offensive line" isn't a good combo for SEC football!

    I agree on 34's prediction now, 6-6 going into the season, maybe our OL will step up but........talent we have at QB but if we can't protect them it may get ugly at the beginning of the schedule.
    After talking to a couple folks I'm not as concerned with our OL. they could be wrong but they are in a position to know and both have said we'll be better there than last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    After talking to a couple folks I'm not as concerned with our OL. they could be wrong but they are in a position to know and both have said we'll be better there than last year.
    They really think we'll be better than 17ing awful?!?!?!


    beijg better than last year on the oline is necessary just to get to 6 wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    After talking to a couple folks I'm not as concerned with our OL. they could be wrong but they are in a position to know and both have said we'll be better there than last year.
    These are probably the same people that think that Holloway is an every down back and Kivon Coman is Ronnie Lott 2.0 correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    And I have no doubt that Tiano is the future at QB. None. Fitz will likely play the majority of reps this season. But there ain't a whole lot of difference between the two, and Tiano may beat Fitz out before the season is even over. Williams is Williams. He has the better arm and grasp of the playbook, but he's doing about all he's capable of. Agree with Coach, Staley is closer to fourth than starting.
    I watched it recently too, Staley's movement in the pocket are just too slow at this point. I love his size, but we are going to have to run the Relf offense for him to be effective.

    I still think Fitz is the guy.

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    Yeah, I don't buy the nobody has more success at QB than Malzahn line. Was that meant to be a joke.


    Eta: JUCO Quarterbacks. My bad. Yeah, Gus had a good run with Nick Marshall on '13. But don't lets act most of that season wasn't a fluke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Yeah, I don't buy the nobody has more success at QB than Malzahn line. Was that meant to be a joke.


    Eta: JUCO Quarterbacks. My bad. Yeah, Gus had a good run with Nick Marshall on '13. But don't lets act most of that season wasn't a fluke.
    And Cam Newton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr. View Post
    And Cam Newton
    Well, yeah. He's Cam Newton.

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