A 4th starting pitcher is useless once you get past your regional......

[Taog Redloh]

Whatever Houston did last night, it needs to translate to the bullpen, where we will need help in the postseason. I see a thread on 6pack saying how great it is that we found a 4th starter. Damn people, this isn't February.

[msstate7]

Or maybe the 3rd game of the regional, we face a heavy rh hitting team and use Houston.

[Liverpooldawg]

Whatever Houston did last night, it needs to translate to the bullpen, where we will need help in the postseason. I see a thread on 6pack saying how great it is that we found a 4th starter. Damn people, this isn't February.

You have to get past the regional.

[shoeless joe]

Stay in the winners bracket and it won't matter...but nice to think we could survive an extra game if needed. But one great game does not a starting pitcher make! Consistency is what makes or breaks a ball player.

[Taog Redloh]

You have to get past the regional.

We are a national seed. Can't lose in your own regional. If we do that means our top guys didn't get it done, not the 4th pitcher.

[the59dawg]

We are a national seed. Can't lose in your own regional. If we do that means our top guys didn't get it done, not the 4th pitcher.

If you do lose a game in the regional, you have to have a 4th pitcher. We will probably start Houston in the regional against the #4 seed.

[MarketingBully]

If we go through to the CWS and stay in the winner's bracket, a fourth starting pitcher is crucial so you can setup your weekend rotation for the championship series. Did you not learn anything from UCLA and 2013? They took a calculated risk started a fourth starter, setup their weekend rotation and kicked our ass in the championship series.

[PassInterference]

Isn't it good to for our starters to rest if we can get it done in the SECT with depth?

[Taog Redloh]

If we go through to the CWS and stay in the winner's bracket, a fourth starting pitcher is crucial so you can setup your weekend rotation for the championship series. Did you not learn anything from UCLA and 2013? They took a calculated risk started a fourth starter, setup their weekend rotation and kicked our ass in the championship series.

Disagree. You're wrong on two counts. UCLA started a 3rd starter, and had they lost a game in the Finals, they likely lose the whole thing. Second, it's not even necessary to do that. You can get to the Finals just like we did, using your ace twice. Then, the ace can come back on Game 2 (or 3, if you lose) of the Finals.

You don't seem to understand that we HAD to win either Game 1 or 2. It didn't matter what UCLA did.

[Taog Redloh]

If you do lose a game in the regional, you have to have a 4th pitcher. We will probably start Houston in the regional against the #4 seed.

A national seed's 3rd or 4th pitchers have to be able to beat a loser's bracket team's 4th or 5th pitcher, and on the road no less.

[HardyStreetAlumniClub]

It takes 5 games to come out of the losers bracket in Omaha and advance to the championship round. You have to beat the winners bracket team twice on the last day. Even if you are in the winners bracket until the last day, it could take 4 games to finish them off.

So yes, it's great that we found a 4th starter. We need a 5th just in case.

[MarketingBully]

Disagree. You're wrong on two counts. UCLA started a 3rd starter, and had they lost a game in the Finals, they likely lose the whole thing. Second, it's not even necessary to do that. You can get to the Finals just like we did, using your ace twice. Then, the ace can come back on Game 2 (or 3, if you lose) of the Finals.

You don't seem to understand that we HAD to win either Game 1 or 2. It didn't matter what UCLA did.

Savage took a calculated risk and started a non-weekend starter to setup his rotation. They had all three weekend pitchers at their disposal for our championship series with them. He even talked about that being a point of emphasis in his post game press conference. You don't pitch your ace if you have other great arms you can throw out there when you have another game to play with. We did and UCLA didn't and that was the biggest difference in the championship series. With this team starting pitching is a strength, so given the same circumstances we would pitch a Houston to setup Hudson to start the championship series. That gives us the best chance to win a National Championship and why having four and even five starting pitchers (including Cyr) is crucial to win in Omaha.

[Taog Redloh]

It takes 5 games to come out of the losers bracket in Omaha and advance to the championship round. You have to beat the winners bracket team twice on the last day. Even if you are in the winners bracket until the last day, it could take 4 games to finish them off.

So yes, it's great that we found a 4th starter. We need a 5th just in case.

Wrong. Omaha games are spaced way out. If we played 5 games out of the loser's bracket we'd go Hudson-Sexton-Pilkington, then back to Hudson and Sexton for the bracket championship. You are talking about Saturday for Game 1, Monday for Game 2, Wednesday for Game 3, then Friday for the 4th game. 5 days rest, plenty to bring back your starter. Then if you make the championship series, you bring your no. 3 out first.

It also depends on your bracket, one side gets an extra day. But that's still 4 days rest.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

All I know is it doesn't hurt to have found a 4th guy who the meddler and his teammates can trust and who has gained some confidence in himself. One other advantage....if you get a rainout in the 3rd inning and lose Dakota or Sexton from a start, this gives you an advantage from someone who doesn't have the luxury of that 4th guy.

[MarketingBully]

Wrong. Omaha games are spaced way out. If we played 5 games out of the loser's bracket we'd go Hudson-Sexton-Pilkington, then back to Hudson and Sexton for the bracket championship. You are talking about Saturday for Game 1, Monday for Game 2, Wednesday for Game 3, then Friday for the 4th game. 5 days rest, plenty to bring back your starter. Then if you make the championship series, you bring your no. 3 out first.

It also depends on your bracket, one side gets an extra day. But that's still 4 days rest.

And that is why UCLA kicked our ass. They had a brilliant pitching strategy that worked to perfection. I'll take my ace going up against an other team's third starter any day of the week. If you pitch your ace on that last day before the championship series, you aren't winning Omaha.

[QuadrupleOption]

Whatever Houston did last night, it needs to translate to the bullpen, where we will need help in the postseason. I see a thread on 6pack saying how great it is that we found a 4th starter. Damn people, this isn't February.

It may be useless, but it sure as Hell can't hurt.

[Taog Redloh]

Savage took a calculated risk and started a non-weekend starter to setup his rotation. They had all three weekend pitchers at their disposal for our championship series with them. He even talked about that being a point of emphasis in his post game press conference. You don't pitch your ace if you have other great arms you can throw out there when you have another game to play with. We did and UCLA didn't and that was the biggest difference in the championship series. With this team starting pitching is a strength, so given the same circumstances we would pitch a Houston to setup Hudson to start the championship series. That gives us the best chance to win a National Championship and why having four and even five starting pitchers (including Cyr) is crucial to win in Omaha.

Dude stop saying this dumb shit. They started their #3 guy against North Carolina, Grant Watson. The guy had 17 starts that year and he was their Sunday starter.

We also had all 3 starters available for the championship series. Graveman was going to pitch on Wednesday had we won. You do realize that you have to win another game to win a national title, right?

The difference is the championship series for UCLA was clutch hitting and GREAT pitching and defense overall. They simply made ZERO mistakes. They were the best team on that field, in June 2013. Bottom line.

[Taog Redloh]

And that is why UCLA kicked our ass. They had a brilliant pitching strategy that worked to perfection. I'll take my ace going up against an other team's third starter any day of the week. If you pitch your ace on that last day before the championship series, you aren't winning Omaha.

Oh no? Michael Roth says hello.

[Brando]

Or maybe the 3rd game of the regional, we face a heavy rh hitting team and use Houston.

Why this almost makes sense to me! Prolly the best thing I have read. Play the matchups. We now have a legit #3 in either LHP or RHP... we cn pitch whichever we need. The more rest Hudson and Sexton can get the better. It will help down the road.

[MarketingBully]

Oh no? Michael Roth says hello.

When was Michael Roth a third starter?