Game of Thrones

[DanDority]

Sorry, I haven't read all the the GoT thread, but am I the only one who has lost interest in the show? It seems to be going in a very strange route killing off all my favorite characters, I haven't read the books so maybe that's why I so confused but I just don't like how the show is going.
p.s. "I was a big Ned Stark fan" so maybe that first season was the down fall for me haha...

[engie]

Keep watching. Yes, it gets worse before it gets better. But IMO thusfar they have always replaced the dead characters with even more interesting characters for the most part.

[War Machine Dawg]

My advice: Watch and catch up, but don't get too attached to characters. Enjoy the overall story. No one is ever safe and can die, so if you're watching for a particular character, you could wind up being disappointed. Dive into the conspiracy theories instead.

[DanDority]

Thanks for the reply's guys, I've been watching from the beginning and tried to get into the story, however, I'm not sure I like how it's going. With that said, I don't like the mother of dragons character and would love to see her get killed but with the nature of the current political climate I'd bet she comes out on top. I guess that's where I'm going. with my thinking.

[engie]

She's a little too obviously on top a little too far ahead of the end game IMO. She has a role to play, but there will be unforeseen hardships almost certainly. She could actually probably conquer Westeros just with the army she now has.

So, you are currently caught all the way up and have seen all episodes then? Season 5 felt like the bleakest point to me. Had they gone further down that rabbit hole, I might have agreed with you. This season is the swing season that I thought last year was going to be(when it was initially supposed to be 7 seasons, 70 hours overall).

Now is the first sure time since early in Robb's campaign that I actually like where it's going and feel like I'm going to finally get some true "victories" which will probably come at great cost, as is the theme of the show.

Keep in mind that the final book in the series(the one the creators of the show are using the cliff notes on to make these final 19 remaining episodes) was initially called A Time For Wolves back when GRRM intended it as a trilogy.

[DanDority]

She's a little too obviously on top a little too far ahead of the end game IMO. She has a role to play, but there will be unforeseen hardships almost certainly. She could actually probably conquer Westeros just with the army she now has.

So, you are currently caught all the way up and have seen all episodes then? Season 5 felt like the bleakest point to me. Had they gone further down that rabbit hole, I might have agreed with you. This season is the swing season that I thought last year was going to be(when it was initially supposed to be 7 seasons, 70 hours overall).

Now is the first sure time since early in Robb's campaign that I actually like where it's going and feel like I'm going to finally get some true "victories" which will probably come at great cost, as is the theme of the show.

Keep in mind that the final book in the series(the one the creators of the show are using the cliff notes on to make these final 19 remaining episodes) was initially called A Time For Wolves back when GRRM intended it as a trilogy.

10-4, engie I'm with you. Yes, I've seen every single episode. I do agree last season was terrible and hard to watch. This season I've begun to hate every time I see the young Stark girl in Bravos. I just don't see where they are going to take her in the show.

[engie]

Pretty sure she will be reuniting with Chekhov's wolf(Nymeria, her direwolf, which was the true alpha of the family) in the Riverlands just in time for Lord Walder to celebrate his latest wedding... Should happen episode 8-9...

I agree. Her story in Braavos has been a drag for a long time now.

[Tbonewannabe]

As the guys from Southpark would say, Arya could have used a montage'. She could have been trained up in one episode and be killing folks by now.

Not sure if anyone wants to look it up but there was a redditor post that outlined most stuff happening this season. I read it but I am not putting it on here just in case it is true and it is major spoilers. It got some traction because part of the post has been right on so far.

I wonder if the Iron bank comes into play at any time. At this point in the book, the Iron bank is making its presence felt of course they were backing Stannis also but in the show that wouldn't go anywhere now.

[BulldogDX55]

Hold the door

[SheltonChoked]

Holy shit. That's all I got after tonight.

[Dawgology]

Hold the door

Just damn. That was good.

[Tbonewannabe]

I have to rewatch it since my mother in law talked through the whole episode. Hodor, Summer, and the child of the forest going down was a lot of stuff happening. I think Little finger is manipulating Sansa to go to the Riverlands. I think he knew she would send Brienne and she is going to be in the middle of the siege.

[War Machine Dawg]

Hold the door. Ho. Lee. Shit.

Sad to see so many people go down to protect Bran: Hodor, Brynden/Raven, several Children, and Summer. Summer pisses me off the most. Seriously, Bran isn't THAT important. But I'm guessing that's the point. And how the hell are Meera and Bran going to survive alone in the unknown North in the middle of winter? Bran can't do anything for himself and can no longer warg into Summer for hunting food.

I think Littlefinger is genuinely sorry he ****ed up so badly with Sansa and wants to help her. The problem, as always, is he has what's best for Littlefinger in mind. Littlefinger always looks out for Littlefinger first and foremost. He's definitely planted the seeds for a wedge between Sansa and Jon. Hoping she doesn't fall for it, but it certainly seems she's at least considering the possibility Jon won't remain loyal.

I'm guessing the new Stark forces tip the balance of an ongoing siege at River Run in favor of Blackfish.

Arya's about to be a boss. Be patient, it's coming. They just trained her senses, now they're training her in the practicalities: fighting, weapons, stealth, actual assassinations, etc. I have no idea how the Faceless Men play into the endgame.

Going to be really interesting to see what happens at Mereen when Dany & the Dothraki Horde show up. Methinks she isn't going to like this new Peace Accord.

Tormund and Brienne....lol

TOJ II next week?

[mcain31]

"The Door" is probably the best episode of the series so far. I think Benjen comes back next episode to save Bran and Meera. I hope that Meera has Dark Sister with her

[War Machine Dawg]

"The Door" is probably the best episode of the series so far. I think Benjen comes back next episode to save Bran and Meera. I hope that Meera has Dark Sister with her

Not a chance. I thought last week's was better. And season 3 episode 9 with the Red Wedding. Maybe even season 1 episode 9 when Ned loses his head.

[archdog]

Great episode. Now that they are not held back by GRRM, the show is putting the players in position for the end game.

[War Machine Dawg]

Come over to Bovine Scat, we've got a running thread discussing GoT over there.

[Tbonewannabe]

I wonder what Bran will do when he sees a Hodor wight? Especially since Hodor's entire life was screwed specifically because of Bran. Just 2 direwolves left, Ghost and Nymeria. I am going to be pissed if something happens to Ghost. I wonder if they even bring Nymeria back into the picture since Arya isn't linked to her like in the books. I really thought reading the books that the direwolves were going to be more than pets but the show is definitely leaning that way.

[War Machine Dawg]

I wonder what Bran will do when he sees a Hodor wight? Especially since Hodor's entire life was screwed specifically because of Bran. Just 2 direwolves left, Ghost and Nymeria. I am going to be pissed if something happens to Ghost. I wonder if they even bring Nymeria back into the picture since Arya isn't linked to her like in the books. I really thought reading the books that the direwolves were going to be more than pets but the show is definitely leaning that way.

As engie and I have been saying, you can no longer take anything that happens in the show as an indication of what will happen in the books. They've diverged in completely different directions. It's explicitly clear that the direwolves are avatars of the Stark children in the books. They do seem to be nothing more than pets in the show. Also of note: Euron wins the crown with the Dragon Horn in the books. He won it with nothing more than a speech Sunday night. Theon is nowhere near the kingsmoot in the books. No Victarion at all in the show. Stannis is still alive in the books. Roose is the f'n boss in the books and is always a step ahead of Ramsey. I could go on and on with the differences.

They're going to get to roughly the same endgame, but you just can't compare the books and the show anymore. They're completely different now.

[DanDority]

As engie and I have been saying, you can no longer take anything that happens in the show as an indication of what will happen in the books. They've diverged in completely different directions. It's explicitly clear that the direwolves are avatars of the Stark children in the books. They do seem to be nothing more than pets in the show. Also of note: Euron wins the crown with the Dragon Horn in the books. He won it with nothing more than a speech Sunday night. Theon is nowhere near the kingsmoot in the books. No Victarion at all in the show. Stannis is still alive in the books. Roose is the f'n boss in the books and is always a step ahead of Ramsey. I could go on and on with the differences.

They're going to get to roughly the same endgame, but you just can't compare the books and the show anymore. They're completely different now.

And to the point that I was getting at in my op, this is why I see it a political push by the left. Danny will most likely win the Game on the show, with help from former slaves and a true transgender in lord Varas.