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    Quote Originally Posted by dparker View Post
    Just asking, but doesn't Title IX only apply to student athlete (meaning still in school)? What jurisdiction would it have after they have graduated if that is how compensation is set up?
    The title IX mentality is to equalize participation/benefit in college sports by gender. Whem it's just a matter of scholarships, a field hockey player gets the same benefit as a football player. Try paying a male quarterback three times what a female volleyball player makes and see what happens. Exactly when you pay them is just a detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Envy. Since nobody was willing to pay them to play sports at all, it's just damn greedy for other people to want to be able to accept the money that people voluntarily want to give them.
    No.

    It's a University not a pro sports franchise. If college sports generating money is too big a bridge for you to cross then do not participate.

    The rules prohibiting college athletes from working are stupid bc programs will just find other ways to funnel money to players but creating payrolls for all student athletes across the board won't be sustainable.

    Why not payroll the engineering students who generate millions for the university? The Business students who generate millions in gifts as well? The med and law school students who generate billions around the country to their respective universities.

    You are going down a very slippery slope here.

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    No one has a problem with college sports generating money. We have a problem with rules that don't allow the people who put their long term health on the line for that money to get anywhere near their fair share.

    I've never heard of an engineer or a softball player getting paid $180,000 to go to Auburn instead of Mississippi State. Like it or not that situation reveals market value.

    We should never ignore problems of inequity just because that's the way we've always done it or because it keeps people comfortable who are only indirectly affected by it. The athletes are the ones who we should hear from and year after year we see players who believe that their talents have value.

    Deep down we all knows it's true but we just don't want to mess up our own fantasy of amateur athletics. Wake up and realize that ship has already sailed. The only thing that needs to be done is for it to be taken out of the shadows into the light. Not because it is going to stop cheating or any other reason other than that it is the right thing to do.
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    Who is the decider of what is fair? Or what a fair share is or when this payment is justified? Which players get a buck eighty and which get a box of popcorn?

    Is it based on performance? Starts? Hits? RBI? Dangerousness of the sport? Hours practiced? Money generated from the sport played?

    Inequity!? You have ambitions of equity in this universe but nirvana is not for this world. Stop coveting other persons situations and take what has been given you and make the most of it.

    It's been said many times...A society that values freedom over equality will end up with a good deal of both, a society that values equality over freedom will end up with neither.



    That 180,00 came directly out of someone's pocket out of their own free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    No.

    It's a University not a pro sports franchise. If college sports generating money is too big a bridge for you to cross then do not participate.

    The rules prohibiting college athletes from working are stupid bc programs will just find other ways to funnel money to players but creating payrolls for all student athletes across the board won't be sustainable.

    Why not payroll the engineering students who generate millions for the university? The Business students who generate millions in gifts as well? The med and law school students who generate billions around the country to their respective universities.

    You are going down a very slippery slope here.
    Well this is a mish mash. If an engineering student can create millions for the university, he can negotiate for pay. Same for the business students who "generate millions in gifts" (are you talking about students with parents that give money? Or are there students who are out actively raising money and being successful enough to generate millions? Regardless, the same is true of them; they are allowed to negotiate with the school for a share of the money they create and/or to leave for a different school offering a better deal.

    So why should the students who can provably generate lots of money for the school not be allowed some meaningful ability to negotiate, above the table? The only arguments I've ever seen made come down to envy or simply disregard of the costs borne by the student athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    Who is the decider of what is fair? Or what a fair share is or when this payment is justified? Which players get a buck eighty and which get a box of popcorn?

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    That 180,00 came directly out of someone's pocket out of their own free will.
    Well you answered your own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dparker View Post
    Probably need something like a salary cap that is tied to a percentage of revenue.
    Can't have that either. Title 9 and such.

    Most schools simply can't afford paying all the players on schollies. Organized college sports would go away eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Well you answered your own question.
    So what's your problem with the current system?

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