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    Guess the bear sanctions

    With all the new developments I think forecasts need to be revised. At one time I had hoped they'd top out at USC level. Now I think that's a good starting point.

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    They will be second most sanctioned university next to SMU.

    It's going to be bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    They will be second most sanctioned university next to SMU.

    It's going to be bad!
    I believe they already own that accomplishment.

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    Worse than Southern Cal, not quite as bad as Southern Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    With all the new developments I think forecasts need to be revised. At one time I had hoped they'd top out at USC level. Now I think that's a good starting point.
    Still say, there is an outside chance of an SMU sentence, if this stalling stuff keeps happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indndawg View Post
    Still say, there is an outside chance of an SMU sentence, if this stalling stuff keeps happening
    If the Tunsil blowup Thursday led to the NCAA catching them in a lie then it may get ugly. Who knows.

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    The worst part for them be laughingstock status for the next 15 years. They can rationalize everything else.

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    Smart money is on USC-level stuff.

    You know, we tend to forget things over time, but Ole Miss was hammered by the NCAA in the mid 90s too. A lot worse than what we got when Jackie left.

    It's a culture of non compliance.

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    And never let up. I know that there was a green explorer that bought a recruit in '96 and was eventually handed down to mama. Have not seen it in a few years. It had a personalized tag that read "eleven".
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    Smart money is on USC-level stuff.

    You know, we tend to forget things over time, but Ole Miss was hammered by the NCAA in the mid 90s too. A lot worse than what we got when Jackie left.

    It's a culture of non compliance.
    "They live in bizarro world...up is down...yes is no...hot is cold. Now they've determined that the NCAA sends a Letter of Inquiry AFTER an investigation is basically over. Uh...NO. Not how it works." Zv2, Bafoom Motard , 10/12/15

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    If we play our cards right, this will help our program over the next several years. Hope we seize the opportunity.

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    What about lack of institutional control? If this isn't LOIC, then I don't know what is.

    1. Multiple sports
    2. Multiple staffs
    3. Multiple types of issues (recruiting, academic, benefits to players enrolled)
    4. Multiple types of people (coaches, agents, boosters)

    There is definitely a culture of noncompliance.

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    I was pretty much in agreement with c34's prediction before all the stuff started going down on Thursday... Now, I have no clue.

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    After the s--t show on national TV Thursday night all bets are off. There are no words in the English language to adequately describe what we witnessed. In front of God and the world an Ole Miss player admitted he was requesting cash from a COACH and that coach complained that he was asking for more than the previously agreed to amount. Just damn. If that had been an MSU player I would have crawled under a rock and not emerged for years. I keep wondering if the sanctions will come all at once or in two parts. However it is done, it will be bad and cripple them for a long time.
    P.S. Thank you Brackey and I mean it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphus Raymond View Post
    After the s--t show on national TV Thursday night all bets are off. There are no words in the English language to adequately describe what we witnessed. In front of God and the world an Ole Miss player admitted he was requesting cash from a COACH and that coach complained that he was asking for more than the previously agreed to amount. Just damn. If that had been an MSU player I would have crawled under a rock and not emerged for years. I keep wondering if the sanctions will come all at once or in two parts. However it is done, it will be bad and cripple them for a long time.
    P.S. Thank you Brackey and I mean it.
    If it was an MSU player, I almost certainly would stop my pledge to the FB program. I'd send it to the academic side instead.

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    I'm going with:

    36 Scholarships over 3 years
    2 Year Bowl Ban

    Less visits, all that other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    I'm going with:

    36 Scholarships over 3 years
    2 Year Bowl Ban

    Less visits, all that other stuff.
    I don't think they would do more than 10 schollys per year. I would say 3/30 or even better, 4/40. I think USC got 3/30. Bowl bans are nice, but I want a Freeze show clause and LOIC. Those are the biggies.

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    Michael Adams, a former University of Georgia President - now at Pepperdine, is on the NCAA Infractions Committee. There was a lot of chatter when Tunsil chose the Bears that Adams was not a happy camper. Shortly afterwards he retired from UGA and joined the Infractions Committee. He came out of retirement when the opportunity to live in Malibu and serve as Pepperdine President was offered. He's still on the infractions committee and as recently as February was in a video interview discussing the need for the NCAA to be very focused on the academic integrity of college sports.

    Adams could be a real wildcard in whatever sanctions come down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsvltndog View Post
    Michael Adams, a former University of Georgia President - now at Pepperdine, is on the NCAA Infractions Committee. There was a lot of chatter when Tunsil chose the Bears that Adams was not a happy camper. Shortly afterwards he retired from UGA and joined the Infractions Committee. He came out of retirement when the opportunity to live in Malibu and serve as Pepperdine President was offered. He's still on the infractions committee and as recently as February was in a video interview discussing the need for the NCAA to be very focused on the academic integrity of college sports.

    Adams could be a real wildcard in whatever sanctions come down.
    Dang. I very clearly remember Adams going to work for the NCAA shortly after Tunsil flipped and he was PISSED. Knew he went to Pepperdine, but had no idea he was on the infractions committee. LOL. This is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    What about lack of institutional control? If this isn't LOIC, then I don't know what is.

    1. Multiple sports
    2. Multiple staffs
    3. Multiple types of issues (recruiting, academic, benefits to players enrolled)
    4. Multiple types of people (coaches, agents, boosters)

    There is definitely a culture of noncompliance.
    This^ I mean that's like drawing them a picture.

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    30 over 3
    2 year bowl ban ( won't share in bowl $ )
    Multiple show cause
    4 year probation period

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    I don't care if they keep Freeze.

    If he can't cheat in recruiting, they will be terrible.

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