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    Runs Created Update - Sabermetrics

    It's been 2 weeks since the last update, and we're still kicking ass, so time to check out some stat comparisons.
    Here is the link to the last update:
    http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread...rics%29-Update

    There is an explanation to a lot of this below the chart for those who may not understand this, but are interested.

    Things that stand out to me:
    Still can't get Cole Gordon out there a little more?
    Mangum has been on fire. If you go back and look at older versions of this, the numbers showed he should be, and I would expect to continue to see him perform at a high level. At this point, he seems to be our best hitter.
    Luke Alexander is bad and continues to get worse.
    Nathaniel Lowe has been improved a lot lately. We need him to keep it up.

    What stands out to you?

    Player Name RC (RC/PA)*4 OPS OBP Slug BABIP AVG R RBI HR TB H HBP+BB SB CS 3B 2B AB K Sac GDP
    Jacob Robson 28.57 0.83 0.961 0.474 0.487 0.446 0.372 32 19 1 55 42 22 10 2 3 4 113 20 3 1
    Jack Kruger 26.09 0.86 1.067 0.475 0.592 0.413 0.357 22 27 4 58 35 22 1 1 0 11 98 19 1 1
    Reid Humphreys 20.59 0.79 1.025 0.423 0.602 0.397 0.341 19 24 3 53 30 14 0 1 1 12 88 19 2 1
    Nathaniel Lowe 19.66 0.60 0.841 0.402 0.439 0.337 0.316 18 23 2 50 36 17 2 0 0 8 114 12 1 6
    Gavin Collins 19.53 0.68 0.916 0.416 0.500 0.271 0.267 20 18 5 45 24 23 0 0 0 6 90 15 2 1
    Ryan Gridley 17.66 0.57 0.766 0.383 0.383 0.337 0.318 16 16 1 41 34 12 1 0 0 4 107 9 4 1
    Brent Rooker 17.29 0.70 0.894 0.394 0.500 0.388 0.326 15 25 2 43 28 11 2 0 1 7 86 19 2 1
    Jake Mangum 15.42 0.95 1.087 0.508 0.579 0.453 0.439 12 15 1 33 25 8 1 1 0 5 57 3 0 1
    Cody Brown 12.96 0.77 0.955 0.455 0.500 0.357 0.308 15 9 1 26 16 14 3 0 2 3 52 9 1 1
    Elih Marrero 11.59 0.51 0.717 0.367 0.350 0.315 0.288 12 9 0 28 23 10 2 0 0 5 80 7 1 1
    Hunter Stovall 7.65 0.59 0.758 0.380 0.378 0.341 0.311 9 10 0 17 14 5 3 0 0 3 45 4 2 0
    Luke Alexander 7.24 0.38 0.624 0.343 0.281 0.275 0.211 10 7 1 16 12 12 2 0 0 1 57 17 7 1
    John Holland 4.08 0.38 0.647 0.341 0.306 0.290 0.250 11 3 0 11 9 5 0 1 0 2 36 5 2 0
    Cole Gordon 3.16 0.79 1.009 0.438 0.571 0.556 0.357 2 2 0 8 5 2 0 0 0 3 14 5 0 0




    Since some folks have no idea what these things mean, I will start including a key when I do my updates. If you know what these things mean, you can stop here. I will not define very common stats.
    Color highlighting is just to help with visual to highlight the best and worst in each category since sorting isn?t available.
    RC (Runs Created) - This is the single best indicator (in my and many others opinion) in determining how valuable a player has been based on what they?ve done this season. Specifically, this stat estimates the number of runs a hitter contributes to his team. This is a very complex formula, and is probably the #1 stat used in sabermetrics in some form or another. I use the advanced formula for RC in this breakdown.
    (RC/PA)*4 - This is Runs Created divided by Plate Appearances times 4. This turns RC into an average so players can be compared equally regardless of how much they?ve played. It?s divided by 4 to give an estimated view of how many runs they create per game. I came up with this, just for comparisons sake.
    OPS - On Base % plus Slugging %
    BABIP - Batting average on balls in play. This is another sabermetric stat. This stat measures how many of a batter?s balls in play go for hits, excluding home runs. It is a good tool for measuring the sustainability of a hitter's performance.
    TB - Total bases
    HBP+BB - Hit by pitch + walks
    CS - Caught Stealing
    Sac - Sacrifice Hits
    GDP - Ground into Double Play

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    What stands out to me is the freshman other than Alexander don't strike out very often. They swing the damn bat. The other stand up there and take to cock shots until they get in the hole 0-2 and then want to swing.

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    Thanks again for this. Always fun to see.

    Magnum is a must-play from here on out until he slows down.

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    I put a lot of emphasis on OPS. I feel like that's a great measure of quality at bats. Are you getting on base and putting the ball in play? You can work with that.

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    Gavin Collins stands out to me. 5 HR, .500 SLG, .416 OBP, but only a .271 BABIP. He might have a huge second half.

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    The one that sticks out to me is the GDP.

    Lowe has 6. Everyone else has 0 or 1. Now look at his sac numbers.

    Obviously not bunting Lowe enough.

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    Gavin Collins BABIP stands out to me.

    Lowe leads the team in double plays- we need to start letting Robson and Mangum or whomever run more when he is at the plate to avoid double plays.

    Other than what has been mentioned, those are the things that stand out to me, and I enjoy it when you do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    I put a lot of emphasis on OPS. I feel like that's a great measure of quality at bats. Are you getting on base and putting the ball in play? You can work with that.
    As do I, it is definitely a good measuring tool. That's why I have it so far left in the chart. It is somewhat correlated to RC, which is why you see so many similarities between the 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Gavin Collins BABIP stands out to me.

    Lowe leads the team in double plays- we need to start letting Robson and Mangum or whomever run more when he is at the plate to avoid double plays.

    Other than what has been mentioned, those are the things that stand out to me, and I enjoy it when you do this.
    As for Collins, that stats excludes HR's, which essentially removes what his true value for us has been

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef dixon View Post
    As for Collins, that stats excludes HR's, which essentially removes what his true value for us has been
    That's true. But it stands out to me because in theory his hitting is likely to get better over the course of the year. Which would be good for us.

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    Do we have any update on Robson? Last I heard it would be a gametime decision on Friday. I know we have guys that can step in, but he is more valuable than it appears at times, as the numbers above prove.

    If he is out for the weekend, who do you think steps in, and what is the batting order?

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    Question for anyone: Why are homers excluded when calculating BABIP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullmutt View Post
    Question for anyone: Why are homers excluded when calculating BABIP?
    I'm no expert but my understanding is that BABIP was designed as a metric to try and show how "lucky" a hitter is. So it measures only batting average on balls that the defense has a chance to make a play on (therefore excluding HR's, at least "outside the park" HR's). For example, you could have a heavy groundball hitter who has a high BABIP because a lot of his hits find holes in the infield. Over the course of the season, the statistical probability would be that his BABIP would decrease due to either more balls being hit right at infielders or infield shifts keeping more balls from getting through (or both). In general, line drive hitters and groundball hitters with lots of speed (like Robson) tend to have a pretty high BABIP, whereas flyball hitters and groundball hitters that are slower tend to have lower BABIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    That's true. But it stands out to me because in theory his hitting is likely to get better over the course of the year. Which would be good for us.
    True. Only thing with Collins is a lot of his outs are pop ups, which don't really help your case with luck. Will be exciting to see if he turns it up

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